You only hear about the bad police. You only hear about people's good days. You only see the horror of a storm. You never see the beauty of the future.
This is stupid. Cops report misconduct constantly. And many of the violators get disciplined or fired. These results are internal. And while they don’t get news attention, they are open records. You just aren’t made aware of these things.
They dont get news attention because they dont want it. They may quietly report a dirty coworker, but you can't show me an active cop that is willing to openly protest and call out dirty cops and the broken system. That thin blue line is too thick. They won't publicly cross it
You're for sure a cop lmao "I'm not here to debate, I'm telling you that's how it is" is like the number one favorite phrase of power tripping cops. You really think you are above people huh?I know for sure you have never publicly stood against bad cops.
I am. It’s interesting you seem to know so much about me having never met me. Also you guys know so much about internal workings of police departments having never served a single day. It’s pretty amazing actually. 👍🏻
I can tell you are a cop because you talk to strangers with this undeserved sense of arrogance and superiority, and act like you are smarter than better than other people. I'll tell you a secret - The average IQ of cops isn't exactly impressive. A good majority of police are below 100 IQ. This has been studied
Do you know how fucking pathetically pretentious you look when you say "I'm telling you how it is" to other adults? Thats how we speak to our kids, and you go around talking to everybody that way. You might as well declare "I am the law" while you write tickets for broken taillights.
I don’t think I’m better than anyone. Truly. Raise my kids the same way. People like you paint with broad strokes. You’ve got your mind made up about me despite knowing nothing about me. Pretentious is subjective. I’m college educated, completing my masters while working actually. None of that matters though. One of us actually knows what LE is like and the other one is you. Keep your opinions. I’ll keep my facts.
Where are the cops openly campaigning and protesting to end the corruption by other cops. There are millions of American civilians protesting in this manner. Where are the cops?
Cops in the US do this too, civil forfeiture. Maybe not necessarily >while frisking< someone, but its literally a process where even if a person is not being charged with any crime, anything they own can be taken by police and never given back. The most common tactic literally is just extortion. They'll pull someone over, claim they smell weed or alcohol or whatever, illegally search the car and anything that "could" be linked to crime can be taken. Including jewelry and cash. They have the person sign a waiver saying "I agree to never contest this asset seizure, in exchange for not being charged with a crime." And are told by the cops that if they don't sign, they're going to prison and will have their kids taken away.
It's been happening more and more in the last 40yrs, going from just under $100m seized in 1987 (adjusted), to $2.5 billion in 2013. Another $20billion since then.
They even have it set up so they don't ever have to show evidence you did anything wrong. They file a lawsuit AGAINST THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, which has no constitutional rights, therefore presumption of innocence doesn't apply and it's up to the victim to prove the item/s in question weren't used for criminal activity. Which ofc, is impossible.
NW? What, is the Palatine PD shaking you down everyday? I think you need to travel more lol..as someone from that area, you should def be more afraid of the gangs…
As a truck driver, I'm putting a huge target on my back every time I get in the cab of my truck. Cops love to hate truck drivers and seem to see us as rolling piggy banks to fund their pensions.
Well I agree with you there. I briefly worked with a retired Indiana state trooper and his opinion was that truck drivers were more morally corrupt than drug dealers..
That's not true! People around here leave their cars unlocked with the keys in them overnight and then wonder how they could have possibly been stolen.
Ohhh yeaaahhh Evanston PD are just terrifying, last time I visited my cousins there one of them even stopped me to ask if I was OK while I was clearly lost carrying heavy bags.
then he gave me a fucking lift to my cousin’s house
Ahh, Mexico had to completely reform their federal police department cause it was so corrupt that literally there was no point in it. Also, it should be pointed out that one time mexican police caught a criminal, and the gang the criminal was linked to told police "release him or will kill you till you do' after multiple murders police released him. If that shit was done in the US, the Marshals would be dragging those gang members out "hubbled"/hog tied and you will see why they are known as the blood hounds of American law enforcement. So, while maybe one or two police officers are good, the entire thing is the last place we should ever take an example from on how a police department is ran.
That's what's frustrating about Mexican news is Reddit. The reactions are always like the thing were happening in the US. When the whole Supreme Court got fired people celebrated as if the US SC had been fired, as if it weren't a completely different situation with terrible consequences for Mexican democracy.
As for the subject at hand, it depends on the part of the country. The Mexico City police is pretty hands off most of the time, as far as extorting or robbing regular citizens, but they're hardly helpful, either. The impunity rates are close to 100% and they don't help old ladies with their cats, either.
Making out the police as worse than the cartels, though... bold statement. It's not the police that is murdering over 100,000 per presidential term, let's leave it at that.
I should have put a qualifier of sorts when I made that comment..
I was more afraid of the police because they were much more likely to just completely fuck me over for no reason other than being American.
The Cartel, on the other hand, didn't fuck with Americans unless you gave them a reason to.
So, admittedly, that's clearly a position that isn't shared between Mexican citizens and American citizens alike. On a general level, of course, the cartel is objectively much more dangerous. But I found that becoming fluent in Spanish plus always doing business in good faith earned a level of respect with the cartel that I could never have achieved with the police, no matter what I did to try to foster a relationship.
At one point, I was basically given a free pass amongst all the local police, ONLY because the local gang that ran the local cartel 'operations' had basically told them "Yeah, you're not allowed to fuck with this gringo anymore."
That's very interesting. Yes, I suppose it makes sense that your nationality would be to your advantage with one group and to your disadvantage with another. The only person I know who's been mugged by the police over here in many years is European.
The saying is one bad apple ruins the bunch, not one bad apple makes the bunch smell bad. Because if you don't take out the bad apple the rot spreads. Any long time cop is guilty of tolerating the bad cops, and that makes them a bad cop too.
Correct take. It’s not that people are mad at all cops bc there’s an occasional bad cop. People are mad that cops protect that bad cop instead of (ironically) self policing. And further, the system protects them and to a certain extent the media does too.
If the apples are capable of calling out a bad cop when they see it, then do it. Otherwise all the apples are implicated in bad apple stuff.
Many police precincts are more like mafia, but their target is tax dollars and in many cases, participation in criminal activity. If members have their doubts, they know the penalty for being a rat. How many police die in mysterious ambushes?
Any "good cop" surrounded by "bad cops" either becomes a bad cop themselves or becomes not a cop. The latter can result from them being harassed into quitting, forced out of the job, forced out of life by coworkers, or "mysteriously abandoned in a dangerous situation".
It's why the system can't be reformed from within. There's no amount of good cops we can dump into precincts that'll somehow overpower what's there. We need people outside of the system who have oversight and control over that system.
The system inherently supports its own abuse by those in power, and if anyone does the right thing, they’re often shamed or sanctioned by others who don’t, and forced out of the system, or forced to join the others in abusing the system. I know people who are working to become police in the US and it’s scary because I’d hate for them to be corrupted by the system, especially if their whole purpose is to help people and prevent the trauma they experienced happen to others.
No other union has the type of power the police union (read: glorified gangs) does, and framing it as an anti-union argument reveals you as a chud or a fed immediately
Not necessarily true, let's assume the force is corrupt and you will get fired for reporting them, then if you do it there's one less good cop on the force, likely to be replaced by a bad cop.
It's amazing how often quotes get bastardized.
I think the most common is "Money is the root of all evil," instead of "The love of money is the root of all evil."
"Blood is thicker than Water." Family ties are more important than anything...
Except, it's "Blood of the Covenant is thicker than Water of the Womb" which is the exact opposite. Those bonds you goose to form are stronger because you chose them.
Sorry, but that one is bullshit. Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but we have instances of “blood is thicker than water” that date much, much earlier than the alternate version.
That was the context in which it was brought up... Idk, at least to me, the implication of the word "bastardized" is that it got degraded and changed over time. Which is not true in this case. "Blood is thicker than water" was not bastardized from anything, it's always meant exactly what it still means
The only time I pay cash for anything now is when it's a cash only transaction, which is pretty uncommon. So I keep a couple of bucks in change in a coin purse, just in case. I can't even remember the last time I had to pull it out, though, thankfully, because I can't stand it either. I was sooo happy when we got rid of pennies, too. It made a big difference in how much change you had to deal with.
I think they realise it, they're just not taking it literally. It would obviously be insane to think that a single bad police officer ruins it for every police officer in their nation, so they're altering it to "just a few" instead to indicate they still don't think it's enough bad apples to spoil the bunch
That's what I'm subconsciously doing when I say "bad apples", anyway
I think a lot of people don't realize just how hard that actually is. Yes you can just go arrest the bad apple. Although do you got the evidence on what they are doing is wrong? Are you sure you're not gonna be targeted because you went after them? Will you actually have the manpower without that person (good or not)?
Not everyone is perfect, but while the phrase above and below is there. Something can't always be done. I know that at least in the states it's innocent before proven guilty (unlike some people act nowadays). Which you need something that you can nail them, and it's not always that simple.
Precisely. Call out the bad cops but we need to call out the good ones. Biggest issue I have is the mob mentality. The good ones get punished for fighting injustice.
While most police officers may be good, the issue isn’t just about individual officers but about systemic problems in law enforcement. The reason bad officers get so much attention isn’t just for views—it’s because their actions can have serious consequences, including wrongful deaths, civil rights violations, and a breakdown of public trust.
Additionally, if "most police do good," then good officers should be actively working to hold bad officers accountable. However, systemic issues like the "blue wall of silence" often prevent this from happening. The focus on bad officers isn't just about sensationalism; it's about addressing flaws in the system that allow misconduct to persist.
Most police do good most of the time. Most police sometimes do bad with varying degrees of severity. Sometimes only small bad. Sometimes real big bad. You only hear big bad and sometimes big good. Like this cop that did something really good.
I disagree. The police as an institution aren't really for the people at the end of the day. If you have quotas for arrests and tickets, your goal isn't to protect and serve. The real goal is to put people in the system and put money back into the government. I understand quotas aren't legal in some states, but it's still legal in most of them in the US.
Sure, some do good, but there sure are a hell of a lot of them that do bad. You dont have to kill an unarmed person of color to do bad as a police officer. Abuse of power has many faces, and it happens every damn day. It's not always something crazy enough to make news but excessive force, wasting people's times with pulling them over for minor to nothing at all, asking questions with the intent to use it against a citizen. And with that last one, weaponizing conversation to either get a rise out of a citizen or to fish for something to try and get them on that you can use against a citizen is petty and shitty behavior.
Now this video was an example of the good they can do, there needs to be harsher consequences for the shitty officers and we need to be able to hold them to a higher standard. If we hold them to higher standards, then maybe we can look upon a video like this fondly without the voice in the back of our head reminding us of all the shitty officers that we or other people we know deal with everyday.
Most might be an overstatement. Still, "police suck as an institution and should be abolished or reformed" is different from "nobody who is a cop has ever done a good deed".
It shouldn’t be newsworthy if someone does their job correctly, the reason you constantly see these stories is because they are always doing terrible things, if they don’t want to be in the news they should stop acting like thugs
Not true at all. All police do is protect money and rich people and harass people just trying to get by. If you’re sexually assaulted by someone you don’t know they won’t look into who did it after maybe an hour but if you’re a rich guy who has a car stolen they will use all the tools in their arsenal
what is this "good" that police do so much more often than the bad we see on a basically daily basis?
genuinely asking your perspective, cause i can list a whole bunch of things like killing 30 dogs a day or being gang organizations, wasting billions of tax dollars, habitually abusing people etc. etc. etc. so i would like to hear the argument for the things they do that are good.
Police globally are not all good, and the US nonsense has made americans try to respect police globally, but too few police men are actually deserving of that respect. Mexico is absolutely not an exception.
Exactly, i remember a small news here km México about an old lady calling the police station just saying "i'm hungry"
Later 2 police Officers arrived to her house with a ton of groceries and food ready to be eaten, i still cry remembering that
lol riiiight.. most police are power tripping assholes, at best.. we only know about the bad apples that get recorded/etc.. the "good ones" typically cover for the bad ones..
You hear abt the bad ones because it needs to be reported tf? Not because it gets views.
It’s the same reason u hear about pedos snatching up kids. U need to be alert and aware of a potential danger. Especially when ur attributes such as race or genre makes u a target
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u/Callmemabryartistry 1d ago
Nice to see police doing good.