r/politics • u/politico ✔ Politico • 23h ago
Soft Paywall Poll: AOC leads Schumer in head-to-head New York primary matchup by double digits
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/04/schumer-aoc-poll-primary-new-york-0306211.6k
u/th30be Georgia 23h ago
Isn't Schumer in until like 2029?
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u/TheLordOfAllThings 23h ago
Yep. This election would be in 2028.
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u/lilb1190 22h ago
He is 74 now, which makes him prime age for a presidential run by 2028.
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u/Niznack 22h ago
I'm not crying I've got freedom water in my eyes
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u/Legendver2 20h ago
Thanks, I just laid a big fart from laughing from this...
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u/skit7548 Pennsylvania 18h ago
Chuck, is that you?
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u/Punkinpry427 Maryland 17h ago
No he’s over in the corner watching as Trump fucks us all.
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u/MNCPA 17h ago
Every hotel room has a single sofa chair for a very specific reason.
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u/JahoclaveS 22h ago
I’ve been reading a book on Truman and the bit about picking him for Vice President is kind of depressing. So much discussion of people being considered too old because they’re sixty something. Then we got all these 80 year old fucks in government these days.
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u/lilb1190 22h ago
"Ill do what I want because I wont be around for the consequences"
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u/DiscDownDummy 21h ago
The motto of nearly the entire US government.
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u/HexenHerz 20h ago
The motto of a large portion of the Boomer generation as well. "I don't care what happens 30+ years from now, get me my profits."
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u/needlestack 20h ago edited 16h ago
I don’t see it like that — I see it as they care too much about the future. They aren’t going to be here but they’ll be damned if they’re going to let the upcoming generation change the way things have been. So they’ll hold on to power until the last minute, fighting every bit of progress. They are outraged and terrified that the world will move on without them so they’re desperate to leave their mark, even if it’s giant skid marks.
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u/bigmac80 Louisiana 21h ago
Baby Boomers will leave this world with a can of gasoline in one hand and a lighter in the other while a bunch of young people try to hold them down and get at least one of the two things out of their hands.
All the while looking angry and confused, screaming "why do you hate me, why do you hate what we do for you!?"
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u/Sminahin 21h ago
We absolutely blew up age norms after 2000. Gore was viewed as a bit of an old fuddy duddy in 2000--he was 52. Then we tripled down on all the reasons Gore lost to Bush (elitism narrative) with Kerry, 61. Then the party tried to run Hillary (61) in 2008 and ran her again in 2009, when she would've been tied for the oldest president in history (69 going into first term). Then it was Biden.
By pre-2000 norms, Harris would've been considered a strangely old pick for a VP paired with a very old president (younger president + older VP makes sense, ancient president + old VP less so) and definitely on the older side as a presidential candidate. But we treated her like she was the walking, talking fountain of youth by contrast.
It's...bizarre.
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u/SycoJack Texas 20h ago
It's...bizarre.
By the time the aughts rolled around, the youngest boomers were in their 50s. How odd is it really?
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u/MaisyDeadHazy 20h ago
The youngest boomers were born in 1964.
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u/SycoJack Texas 19h ago
You're right, I fucked up the math.
The point remains, though, the president got older with the Boomers.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi Washington 14h ago
Pretty much this. The Boomer generation has steadfastly refused to hand over power, and it's not just in politics even though that's the most visible place for it.
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u/SycoJack Texas 13h ago
They're really fucked up the jobs market by refusing to GTFO.
So many boomers occupied low wage jobs after retirement just so they wouldn't be bored, causing downward pressure on wages.
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u/Vicky_Roses 14h ago
I think it helped Harris that she, admittedly, looked great for her age and could pass off as, like, a 50-something year old instead of the aging mummy that she is.
The conversation would have been extremely different if she looked old.
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u/bootlegvader 11h ago
Gore was viewed as a bit of an old fuddy duddy in 2000--he was 52.
I don't think Gore was considered a fuddy duddy because of his age rather because he spoke in a monotone and without much emotion. I wish Gore won and all, but he sounds like he should be high school math teacher more than a politician.
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u/Sminahin 10h ago edited 7h ago
I would say Gore was the best of the lot by a mile. Some people are just born to be fuddy-duddies, and he was one--which wasn't necessarily a bad thing after Bill Clinton's misdeeds. But let me put it this way... This is the list of Dem presidents for the last 100 years, excepting VPs that inherited from a dead president: FDR, JFK, Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden. If you exclude Biden, the average age going into first term was about 48.
Gore was on the older side of normal at the time, and he was sandwiched between the very youthful Clinton and Obama. Gore was within the normal range of older for the old days, but he's the youngest of the new days by a mile. I think this is a sign of just how badly our party misunderstands age as a dynamic and how far we've shifted.
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u/D0013ER 18h ago
Anyone who would have dared to point out that Harris isn't exactly a spring chicken herself would have gotten crucified by the left flank for being both sexist AND ageist.
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u/Sminahin 17h ago
Oh trust me I have been. For both Harris and Hillary. Bet Kerry wishes he could benefit from the same deflection--nobody accused me of bias against old rich white men at the time. If someone's old enough to reasonably have teenage grandchildren and hit retirement on the job, then it's goofy to pretend they're young. God, Hillary 2016 would've hit very reasonable great grandparent age numbers while in office.
To be clear, I don't think 60 or 61 is a hard disqualifier (though we all agree Reagan was too old and Hilary would've tied), but we as a party succeed the most electorally when we brand ourselves as youthful reformers. Good luck selling that image.
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u/MagicalUnicornFart 2h ago
The Left was just as happy to see the D’s lose.
This last election was insane.
Harris/ Walz wasn’t a bad ticket. She was promising legal weed, a $25,000 home buying credit…and, had an amazing record for progressive causes in the Senate.
Kamala Harris is extremely liberal — and the numbers prove it
The Left really enjoys cutting of its nose to spite its face.
People are still standing by their idiocy to refuse to cast a ballot against Trump…for a decent Democratic ticket. Or, show up to vote against their GOP reps.
The Left handed Trump, and the GOP this victory.
With everything going on…I can’t take anyone’s nonsense about Harris/ Walz was bad enough to not vote against Trump/ Vance, and a GOP backing Project 2025. There’s no logic to it. It illustrates a lack of understanding of politcs, current events, history, and morality.
People’s lives are fucking getting ruined…and some nonsense purity test where the D based demanded Biden step aside…and, still refused to vote against Trump.
The people that refuse to show up, don’t get to complain. It’s no different than the leopards are my face situation the MAGAs made.
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u/UngodlyPain 17h ago
I am a leftist, and got death threats in my inbox when I pointed out I liked most of her policies (pre Cheney) but disliked how old she was still, effectively pointing out how she's basically Obama's age and Obama was president almost 20 years ago... And said we should probably be aiming for low 50s/high 40s, not 60.
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u/awfulsome New Jersey 21h ago
I thought about what would it would be like to be transported back 60 years to 1965 and to be asked about the future, including politics. It dawned on me that every president in my lifetime was already born, and with the exception of Obama, was already an adult, and I wasn't due to be born for more than 15 years.
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u/Illustrious-Ice6336 20h ago
If you do go back in time, make sure you erase Lee Atwater
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u/awfulsome New Jersey 19h ago
lol, one of things I thought to say is "I'm not going to give you all the details, but avoid Atwater, Stone, Nixon, and Reagan"
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u/Osiris32 Oregon 18h ago
Part of the problem is that modern campaigning has become so expensive that pretty much old men who have made fortunes can do it.
Pre Covid I made a serious look at running for Congress in Oregon's 2nd. It's deep red but their rep at the time, Greg Walden, was an empty suit of the emptiest variety. I had spent a lot of time living and working out there for the feds fighting wildfires, and I thought I might have a handle on how to talk to those people and convince them to vote for a Dem like me who is pro 2A. I started asking around the local Democrats, and ran into an old friend from church, who just so happens to have been Superintendent of Oregon Public Schools and a two-term State Senator. "Hey, Verne! I'm considering taking on Greg Walden over in the other side of the state. What do you think I need?"
And his straight faced response was "a million dollars in your pocket right now, and the ability to raise another five million before the election."
And this was for a little-known district with a low population density and nothing important in terms of industry, as opposed to a district from New York or California or Illinois or Texas.
Modern campaigning requires media ad blitzes and a massive social media presence. TV, radio, email, snail mail, YouTube, tiktok, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, BlueSky, reddit, you have to produce a LOT of advertising content just to keep up. And yes, the Parties will help you with that, maybe. If you're an outsider or an unknown, and especially in a district that leans heavily the other way, support will be limited.
Sometimes you get an exception to this. AOC did it when she first ran. Maxwell Frost kind of did it as the first Gen Z in Congress, but he wasn't unknown to the party as he had been involved in organizing and campaigning since 2012.
Until and unless there is a major change to campaign laws that massively shortens the campaign season from two years down to like two months, or a bunch of young rich people suddenly decide to do something about the current dumpster-and-tire-fire, national politics is going to remain the realm of the rich old man.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi Washington 14h ago
This is part of where the money in politics is so problematic. When only wealthy people and those with lots of insider connections to fundraising can run, all you get in office are the wealthy and insiders.
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u/SpaceForceAwakens 18h ago
To be fair, 50 was considered pretty old back then. Lifestyle and medicine were very different. Now my mom is in her 70s and in better shape than my grandma was in her 50s.
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u/omgpuppiesarecute 21h ago
TBF life expectancies have increased. Though we'll see how long that lasts thanks to the current administration and their cavalier attitude towards health and science.
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u/kama-Ndizi 21h ago
Life expectancy mostly increased because of people not dying young anymore. Plenty of people got 70 and 80+ in the past as well.
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u/deadsoulinside Pennsylvania 20h ago
Also because you didn't live nearly as long then as you do now. 60 for them was more like 80.
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u/fennis_dembo_taken 18h ago
Societal norms were a bit different. The people in government did tend to be there for more altruistic reasons. That is, they thought they were doing the right thing, even if it wasn't. So, they didn't need to cling to power until they were on their deathbed...
But, regarding the general age... I think the 'average' lifespan was more related to the fact that there are fewer people dying as children these days.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi Washington 14h ago
It's also that there was a certain expectation that if you weren't trying to do the right things, that you'd get punished by the voting public for it.
This, more than anything, is the fundamental norm that Trump demolished, because he demonstrated that Republicans could be openly racist, vicious, nasty, and even downright evil/criminal and still win elections. It's probably the one that's going to be hardest to repair, and among the most necessary, because if politicians aren't even afraid of being punished by the voters for crossing a line, they have zero incentive not to do so other than their own moral compass.
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u/rotates-potatoes 22h ago
Just needs a couple more years to mellow out and not be such a firebrand.
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u/lilb1190 22h ago
Any more mellow and his slogan is going to be "vote Chucky Schoom 2028, man"
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u/crazypyro23 20h ago
Makes sense. It's his turn after all. He's got this really clever strategy that's 1,000% guaranteed to work. Are you ready for this? He's gonna court all those moderate Republicans that are turned off by Trump and MAGA. Brilliant right? It can't possibly fail! And if the base gets mad, who cares? They'll vote because they have to! He's going to have Liz Cheney AND Mike Pence supporting him. It's a guaranteed win!
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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 20h ago
Actual Chuck Schumer quote: “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia.”
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u/BlueJeanRavenQueen 17h ago
Of course this quote is stupid, but as someone from the suburbs of Philadelphia, I am struck by just how stupid it is. The only republicans from there who don't like Trump are also the kind of people who just don't vote. They think politics don't matter and their lives will go on unaffected by anything that ever happens in Harrisburg or Washington.
The Democratic Party is starving because they wasted last election season crawling under the table for Trump's table scraps instead of eating off their own damn plate.
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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 17h ago
"Why go after the millions of progressive democratic voters when we can go after the 11 voters who give a shit about what Liz Cheney thinks!"
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u/Any_Will_86 16h ago
I am back and forth on this. I do think their is a strain of R that will cross over to vote D but they only do it in the direst of times. Also, a lot of the PA ones have moved to North & South Carolina and Florida. The working-class voters are the ones who stuck around...
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u/Zahgi 21h ago
Schumer and Newsom are making all the right (wing) moves...
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 19h ago
California and New York have so much money that the donors just get republicans to run as democrats.
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u/DiscDownDummy 21h ago
Well you see, their real constituents are the billionaires filling the DNC coffers. If you remember that, everything they do makes sense.
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u/Newscast_Now 19h ago
Money=Speech was going to end if the 2016 election turned out differently, but you know, 'Hillary too old" or 'Hillary neocon' or 'But her emails' or whatever. And now it is 2025 and people are still attacking Democrats for the very thing they should have joined with Democrats to change as the United States heads into a a new dark age.
Then they wonder how Republicans keep getting back in. Look at yourselves. After Republicans, the Council of Democratic Despair is the second most harmful political movement in America.
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u/quincyloop 22h ago
I have a better plan for her in 2028.
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u/MHath 22h ago
Losing a presidential election?
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u/Carthonn 22h ago
To Hulk Hogan brother
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u/No-One7813 21h ago
As a Pro Wrestler myself, its so sad seeing how pathetic Hulk has been in his life. His Daughter just detailed a history of abuse from Hulk and Linda (ex wife), Hulk routinely lies about literally everything and anything (Being bassist for Metallica, George Foreman Grill Origin, Hulkamaniacs with Cancer dying before shows he never wrestled at), is openly racist to a degree, has brought shame to the Wrestling business, and he even stopped a wrestler's union from starting thanks to turning on (former Gov of Minnesota) Jesse "The Body" Ventura
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u/ClockworkDreamz 21h ago
Bassist for Metallica? Seriously lol.
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u/sublimefan2001 21h ago
Yea he's been somewhat called on that one because it's so completely insane but he has amended his lie over the years. First he claimed he was friends with Lars and was asked to join when Cliff Burton died in 87. Then it was that he was asked to join when Jason Newsted left in 2000. Then it was that he claimed he sent them an audition tape but didn't hear back. I can't remember if he claimed they asked him for an audition tape or if he just sent them one.
There's video clips of James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich being asked about this and they seem as perplexed as anyone else by Hogan making the claim lol
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u/UnquestionabIe 21h ago
Extremely depressing as I absolutely loved him as a kid back in the 80s.
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u/SpazSpez 19h ago
You're right. It's for the dems to force yet another deeply unpopular neolib candidate. Third time's the charm!
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u/MHath 18h ago
I’m not of the opinion that a progressive couldn’t win. She couldn’t though.
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u/justcasty Massachusetts 21h ago
AOC will be busy running for President
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u/OogieBoogieInnocence 21h ago
I think shes more patient and savvy than that. She needs to spend more time building her brand, most people only hear about her from fox news and republican attacks on her, or are devoted progressives already
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u/vonkempib Kansas 21h ago
I do too. One thing I have pondered recently, did Obama forfeit a decade of further potential and worthwhile service to this country by being president so soon. At one point, I like a young president but after you hold the office, your career is over. I don’t like career politicians but I also recognize the party is missing his stardom and void all because he no longer contributes in official capacity. Retired early basically
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u/justcasty Massachusetts 21h ago
It was his choice to retire. He could be speaking out and fighting alongside us now but he's comfortable and chooses not to
There's no rule that a President has to retire from politics after their two terms. There's norms, sure, but if you're still holding up 'norms,' you're not paying attention while the Republican party lights the country on fire.
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u/420yoloswagblazeit 20h ago
John Quincy Adams had his best political years after his presidency, even. Bring that shit back. Obama can absolutely help in the Senate.
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u/JoshOliday 13h ago
Taft served on the Supreme Court until his death AFTER serving a term as President.
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u/ymmvmia 18h ago
Nahh, she's definitely going to go for Senator in 2028 after Schumer's disastrous CR decision. Current polls show her with a landslide win against Schumer. 20-point-lead. She'd be stupid not to go for that. The effect on the democrat establishment would be dramatic if she were to unseat the Senate Democrat leader (minority, but probably majority in 2026-2028). Senate democrats would be forced to pick a new leader, and progressives will have a lot more leverage. Maybe Bernie could even get leadership before he retires? Depends on how dramatic the possible dem establishment collapse is.
I think Tim Walz or someone else would do better running for president. He's heavily signaling it. And he's the best positioned "progressive/pro-labor/anti-oligarch" democrat candidate for 2028. No one else has his name recognition and political positioning except for establishment/corporate/centrist dem politicans like Gavin Newsom who right now is getting massive backlash for cozying up to MAGA.
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u/CheesypoofExtreme 16h ago
He's heavily signaling it.
Kind of an understatement. He's been all over media dragging Trump and capturing headlines.
I think it's a good strategy for him as well. He needs to create his own narrative about who he is and what his positions are after the run with Kamala that effectively silenced any strong opinions he had.
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u/Dark_Magus 17h ago
That assumes Schumer still is the Senate minority leader even next year, let alone in 2028. Politicians who defiantly say they're not stepping down is usually what happens right before they're forced to step down. There's 46 other Senate Dems who also get a vote in whether he remains the minority leader after all.
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u/BrndyAlxndr 20h ago
I don't see it happening. I like her but she is far too polarizing. Would be an easy win for the Republicans unfortunately.
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u/mightcommentsometime California 14h ago
She’s smarter than that. She needs to win statewide office before trying to go for a national office
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u/Oceanbreeze871 I voted 17h ago
Which means AOC needs to choose Senate or Presidential run.
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u/NickelBackwash 22h ago
Hard to imagine Schumer will be walking in 4 years
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u/GreenGorilla8232 21h ago
A lot of people seem to be missing the point. This isn't about 2028.
It's a referendum on the party's leadership in the present moment.
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u/gotridofsubs 21h ago
By talking about a hypothetical race between two people who havent actually declared their intent to run in an election almost 4 years away.
Its clickbait
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u/GreenGorilla8232 20h ago
You missed the point again.
It's not about 2028. It's about what voters currently think of the party's leadership.
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u/AssignedHaterAtBirth 18h ago
Its clickbait
The neoliberals are a floating corpse and you'll do us all a favor by understanding that.
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u/toxiccortex 22h ago
This entire experiment might be over before 2028 but ok cool
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u/vandreulv 21h ago
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u/_DragonReborn_ 19h ago
The irony of all these minorities clamoring to work for Trump is rich. Trump probably calls dude “Apu” and he’d be just happy to get his attention. Fucking fool
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u/____joew____ 18h ago
Person in question is a woman FYI
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u/AssignedHaterAtBirth 18h ago
Apu is a trans woman. Understood.
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u/Eggonioni 17h ago
No, that doesn't make the story understood at all, she's the typical conservative woman that wants to do anything to keep women down.
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u/AssignedHaterAtBirth 17h ago
I was being facetious if that wasn't clear. 😆
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u/Eggonioni 16h ago
More than fair enough, I hope that reply wasn't annoying 😭
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u/AssignedHaterAtBirth 16h ago
You good -- it can be hard to guess where I'm going at face value with my user name so I don't blame you.
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u/vriska1 18h ago
Comments like this are not helpful, everyone needs to still vote.
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u/mothyyy 13h ago
"If one of us survives, we all survive." - 3 Body Problem
Theoretically, the United States could exist with only a single State. The United State Of America lol. There would be the State's typical government but also a microcosm of a federal government consisting of a Congress with only 2 Senators and however many Representatives the State currently has. The VP would break ties in this 2-member Senate. The State would elect a President along with a Governor, and the President would appoint Justices to make a Supreme Court which the 2 Senators would have to confirm. Amending the Constitution would work just like it always has, with either an Article V convention (State Legislature proposes it) or through the Congress.
And that's not even considering what sort of Continuity Of Government plans would be enacted. Some people theorize that Biden already executed a CoG plan before he left office in preparation for Trump's inevitable failure.
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u/MissionCreeper 23h ago edited 22h ago
Great, but why are we talking about this now, we have more pressing things to work on than an election that will be held in 2028.
Edit: Since I can't reply to everyone, I will add that my worry is that this could actually prevent AOC from progressing further somehow. Lots of things change over the course of 4 years- this is preparing for a very specific set of circumstances
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u/-patrizio- New York 22h ago
Helps put pressure on the Dems, showing how badly the popularity of our Senate “leader” has slipped.
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u/MonolithicBaby 22h ago
Like they care
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u/contextswitch Pennsylvania 20h ago
They care about their own elections, and this night help apply pressure to that. It can't hurt at least
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u/IShouldBWorkin North Carolina 22h ago
Imagine if we had started testing out candidates for the last presidential election long before it started instead of a surprise switch halfway through the campaign, do you think that might have gone better?
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u/SuperStarPlatinum 20h ago
Yeah that's the biggest weakness of the Democratic party, post Kennedy assassination.
The DNC refuses to ever have a plan b in case the incumbent is a dog turd. They never do an autopsy on a loss to figure out how to win the next election.
The current strategists are dangerously incompetent and out of touch with reality, Hillary Clinton gave the DNC cancer.
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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 20h ago
Hillary is A tumor, but the cancer is ancient center-right dems who refuse to retire or leave office until they die of natural causes.
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u/fiction8 18h ago
The only incumbent Democratic president to lose post-Kennedy was Carter. Was he a "dog turd?"
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u/mightcommentsometime California 14h ago
When your incumbent doesn’t run again (and is able to), it’s basically a guaranteed loss. At least historically it has been
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u/UnquestionabIe 20h ago
Don't forget to abandon an effective strategy in favor of parading around with member of the GOP who were pushed out of the party! Surely that will appeal to the imaginary undecided voters!
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u/kevendo 23h ago edited 21h ago
More pressing things, like whether we will even have an election in 2028.
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u/NickelBackwash 22h ago
There will be one, but the Democrats will be designated a terrorist organization.
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u/fedscientist 18h ago
Because perpetuating infighting among the left is the media’s favorite pastime 🙄
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u/fauxdeuce 22h ago
They're talking about it now because they have the distance themselves from him. He sold the party out during the last Budget meeting is the other Dems. Don't show that they're angry. We vote on them too for being spineless as they have been.
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u/Describing_Donkeys 22h ago
If nothing else, it's a great point to use when people try and say AOC is too extreme or that the party elders are so entrenched they can't be removed. A lot of people don't see the change within the party, and this is a good data point for that.
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u/Rupaulsdragrace420 22h ago
Schumer will not run for re-election. I guarantee he'll step aside but likely won't endorse a candidate to take the seat until after a primary.
AOC should run for senate in 2028 in my opinion, not president. She's almost sure to win the Senate seat but the white house is no guarantee. She'll also be pushing the senate massively left, something Sanders will eventually have to stop doing for us.
I'd love to see her run for the highest office eventually but I feel like her time is the 2032, 2036, or 2040 elections. She'll be just as good if not better 7-15 years from now and she'll be able to run in the presidential primary without losing a 6 year senate seat once she holds it.
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u/TargetBoy 22h ago
Someone needs to primary Gillibrand as well. She was also part of the Vichy 10.
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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 20h ago
I expect the SAME energy from her against Andrew "Handsy" Cuomo as she had toward Al Franken.
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u/bootlegvader 11h ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-cuomo-harassment-allegations-calls-to-resign-schumer-gillibrand/
Both Schumer and Gillibrand called on Cuomo to resign. It always interests me how Reddit gets on her case for calling out Franken, while ignoring that Bernie also called on him to resign.
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u/AssignedHaterAtBirth 18h ago
The astroturfers are going to concern troll either way so every time you hear a "Yesbutt..."
Yesbutt she's too young.
Yesbutt she's too progressive.
Yesbutt America is too bigoted.
call their motives into question because they are NOT here to help.
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u/West_Side_Joe 22h ago
Good. It's time for the old guard to retire.
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u/kdeff California 22h ago
Honestly Pelosi too. They are still fighting the old battle; the game has changed.
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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 20h ago
They're not fighting shit.
Pelosi's lifeforce is insider trading. THAT'S her battle. The moment she stops being able to grift she'll shrivel up and turn to dust like Walter Donovan at the end of Last Crusade.
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u/Chance_Warthog_9389 22h ago
In other NY related news, that motherfucker Eric Adams running as an independent is kinda important.
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u/Zeddo52SD 20h ago
I think the only part that makes me nervous is her support among “Moderates”. Schumer is at 50%, AOC at 35% with 15% undecided.
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u/Despair-Envy 20h ago
The "Moderate" support was the vote that led to Kamala Harris and Biden. Schumer and Jeffries. They're the ones with 20% approval rating.
People aren't moderate anymore. You're either for the fascists, or against them. Moderate proponents that perpetuate the status quo are dead.
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u/Elegant_Plate6640 19h ago
For those who don't click on the link, AOC hasn't announced she's running for Senate, this is just a poll.
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u/Competitive-Cow-4522 22h ago
She would make a kick ass Senator - totally firebrand in the style of Fighting Bob LaFollette
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u/Schiffy94 New York 23h ago
There went be a primary between them. Schumer wants to retire. He's not going to run in '28. He's going to endorse her to succeed him.
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u/ufotheater Oregon 18h ago
I imagine so would a ham sandwich. But AOC is way better than a ham sandwich.
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u/SirBobIsTaken 23h ago
More horse race garbage at a time when we need literally anything else.
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u/RepulsiveLoquat418 23h ago
i disagree. any way of keeping the message front and center that democratic voters support fighting trump instead of enabling him is a positive thing.
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u/KovuNakiRoka 23h ago
Absolutely not. Schumer has shown he is an ineffectual, privileged, effete, soft-penis'd, debutant. What we need is someone with a spine.
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u/rotates-potatoes 22h ago
debutant
I think you meant dilettante? And damn you for that image.
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u/KovuNakiRoka 22h ago
While I wish I came up with the phrasing it's from Robert California seen here: (17 seconds)
https://youtu.be/SzgG94Tz2Ak?si=bkDhfuA_S1nL-49O
I don't question the fucking Lizard King
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u/SirBobIsTaken 23h ago
Schumers term ends in 2029. AOC hasn't announced that she is planning to run for senate, and even if she was it wouldn't be for another 4 years. This poll is completely irrelevant.
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u/KovuNakiRoka 23h ago
It can be relevant as it's representative of likely democratic voters and the things they prioritize. Schumer needs to be shown he is a problem, and polling constituents is a way to statistally show discontent.
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u/SirBobIsTaken 23h ago
Polling is fine. Framing it as a political horse race is not helpful or relevant. except to act as click bait.
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u/LoverOfCurves72 23h ago
Good. I hope she runs and wipes the floor with him. It’s way past time for new leadership.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 21h ago
If Democrats could feel the pulse of the zeitgeist, they'd put Sanders in as Senate minority leader and AOC in as House minority leader.
But no. I guess we'd rather have wet cardboard for charisma in leadership roles right now...
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u/mightcommentsometime California 15h ago
Why would the Dems put someone into leadership who isn’t even willing to call himself a democrat?
Sanders hasn’t made strong enough coalitions with the other senators who could be his allies to ever be put in the minority leader position.
Politics isn’t just about being loud. It’s also about building coalitions and relationships with your fellow lawmakers. Sanders doesn’t do that. He has spurned the Dems enough to basically forfeit any chance of being put into a senate party leadership position
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u/ItsAlwaysSegsFault 15h ago
I love Sanders but we need someone younger there. I don't fully agree with Cory Booker on everything but he's got the energy and the passion for the job.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 15h ago
I'd be content with him! I just figure despite his age, Sanders has proven to have both a fighting spirit and energy along with knowing what the root of the problem is, and so while I wouldn't want him to run for President again, being Senate minority leader isn't a role so vital that should he suffer medical ailments he couldn't be replaced.
Still, he's not even a Democrat in reality but Independent, so that probably bars him from being able to assume the role in the first place I assume?
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u/atreeismissing 18h ago
She should run for Senate, as we really need more progressives in the Senate and Schumer isn't up for a few years which gives her time for funding and setting up outreach/candidate infrastructure outside of NYC which she'll need as those areas are far more conservative than her district. He's going to retire anyhow but she may have a much more difficult time against a generic moderate than Schumer who is hated by the party at the moment given how moderate NY is as a whole.
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u/TacticalTimbit 3h ago
Good . Little backstabbing coward needs to go. His balls have shrivelled up to raisins and he just rolls over like a good republican lapdog he’s become. We need warriors in this fight. Not old raisin balled wimps with no fight left in them. The GOP claim they have a mandate and want to “ own the libs” . Passing that budget without dem help was their first test. Schumer failed to let that internal republican dogfight play out and show how dysfunctional they are. Thanks for your time , but it’s time to for him to go.
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