r/politics 19h ago

Terminate the Trump tariffs before it's too late

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sen-rand-paul-terminate-trump-tariffs-before-its-too-late
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u/TubeframeMR2 19h ago edited 19h ago

Congress for once act as the founding farther intended. You have the power of the purse use it. Take back the authority to levy tariffs from the executive. Please reach out to your representatives and demand action.

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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Illinois 17h ago

Fun fact: The Continuing Resolution to fund the government for the next year wasn't just extraordinary because CRs are usually for a couple months not an entire year, but also because it contained a provision prohibiting the House from challenging Trump's emergency trade wars powers for the duration.

Again: The House or Representatives preemptively castrated their own ability to cancel Trump's emergency powers for an entire year.

But at least they avoided a government shutdown, which I'm sure will help me sleep at night while my cost of living goes up by 15% and my salary doesn't.

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u/THSSFC America 17h ago

I mean this ties the GOP even tighter to this economic catastrophe.

However, THEY CAN STILL STOP THIS, TODAY!

They just need a vote, ALL Demcrats would be on board. They could easily get a veto-proof majority with 0 pushback from the Democrats.

Every day they don't do this is one more day they are complicit in this catastrophe.

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u/Elimrawne 16h ago

You can't tie people to something if they just deny it, run ads saying you actually did it and then create another catastrophe.

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u/trisul-108 16h ago

This would only be done by Republicans who are on the ballot in 2026 and Trump would primary against them with Musk funds.

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u/DazzlingAdvantage600 14h ago

Wisconsin has just shown that Musk is not a fallback for any Republican candidate, especially in blue/purple areas. WI Dems thought they were only up by 1-2 points; in fact, it turned out to be 9 points.

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u/angrybirdseller 12h ago

There are Republican politicians in Iowa to Minnesota very nervous about Wisconsin result. Wisconsin bellwether of Midwest.

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u/LalaPropofol 9h ago

They’re nervous in Michigan too. Trump barely won here, and we enjoyed four years of Democrats holding the senate, house, and governorship. Objectively, our blue leadership got a fuck ton done.

Republicans have the house by a very slight majority right now. They’re currently trying to challenge the CITIZEN PROPOSAL that passed for redistricting reviewed by the federal Supreme Court.

They’re terrified, and they should be. Voters will feel physically ill hearing “conservative” after these tariffs topple the automotive industry.

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u/JustMy2Centences Indiana 14h ago

If my Republican congressman went against Trump to uphold some sense of dignity and protect the constitution, I'd vote for them keep their seat in the primary. General election is fair game as always.

But they won't, and they don't care about us.

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u/gusterfell 13h ago

The entire House is on the ballot.

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u/StoppableHulk 12h ago

Musk's not gonna have any funds by the time 2026 rolls around. And besides, he spent $25 million to elect a fucking judge in Wisconsin and failed, anyone who is afraid of that fucking loser at this point needs their heads examined.

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u/seats-taken- 12h ago

You think hes gonna burn through 380 billion dollars this year? Not trying to sound like a total dick, but since the only backing to your argument is that he spent 25 million in Wisconsin, Id recommend looking up "the difference between million and billion explained with grains of rice". This dude could piss 25 million a day for the rest of the year and it wouldnt even be 7 billion dollars, and we re not including any and all growth that occurs to his net worth during that year. Tldr, Elon aint gonna be forced to eat kraft dinner anytime soon.

u/Responsible_Pizza945 6h ago

He doesn't have that much in liquid money. Most of his wealth is in the form of stocks, which are all rapidly tanking. He claimed those stocks as collateral to justify massive bank loans with low interest rates. It's a convenient loophole for someone rich enough to pull it off, since it leaves your stock portfolio to appreciate while still allowing you access to money you otherwise wouldn't have. But it only works while the stock you hold is worth more than the toilet paper it's becoming.

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u/os_kaiserwilhelm New York 15h ago

Minor nitpick, they didn't prohibit themselves from challenging the tariffs, which they can do at any time.

They stopped the clock on when Congress has to affirmatively assent, or else the tariffs expire (I think). They basically made it so that Trump's tariffs are permanent for the duration of the continuing resolution unless 2/3 of Congress can pass a law removing tariffs and overriding the Presidential veto.

Not a huge distinction, but Congress is not prohibited from challenging Trump's tariffs. As a general rule, Congress cannot bind Congress.

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u/me_jayne 17h ago edited 15h ago

They changed the definition of a “day”. It doesn’t get any more reality-bending.

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u/doublecalhoun 14h ago

except everywhere else the word 'day' is used in legislation, except that one part where they want 'day' to mean anything they wish

we are extra fucked

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u/bishpa Washington 17h ago

And your savings evaporate.

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u/code_archeologist Georgia 14h ago

Again: The House or Representatives preemptively castrated their own ability to cancel Trump's emergency powers for an entire year.

Which is one of the reasons that there is a nullification crisis on the horizon. California, Illinois, and New York are currently looking at ways to circumvent our just straight up ignore Trump's tariffs because they are unconstitutional.

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u/Xanikk999 15h ago

Schumer needs to go now. He is a disgrace.

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u/jgilla2012 California 16h ago

Ha ha, you’re assuming you’ll still have a job to earn 15% less at! Many will not make it to that point. 

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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 18h ago

Sorry the Republicans are too busy spreading their ass cheeks for trump

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u/roastbeeftacohat 17h ago

Not even that. Johnson shut down the house over losing a vote trying to punish congress women for getting pregnant.

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u/mishma2005 15h ago

I still cannot get over that "women are too emotional to lead"

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u/Unctuous_Robot 15h ago

Let’s be clear here, to mainly stop Rep Petterson, who brought her newborn with her, and joined every other democratic representative (save one undergoing chemo who passed a few weeks ago) in voting against the house budget despite republicans putting it at the end of the night without warning after saying they wouldn’t to try to catch Dems off guard.

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u/roastbeeftacohat 15h ago

it's also attacking the idea that women can have jobs.

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u/Unctuous_Robot 15h ago

Yes. Petterson in the short term, that in the long term.

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u/Le_Nabs Canada 15h ago

I thought we men were supposed to be the stoic rational ones, and here he is, having a hormonal little temper tantrum.

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u/ArgoShots 13h ago

He's not punishing women for getting pregnant. That's what they're supposed to be doing. He's punishing them for daring to run for office & get elected.

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u/arkady48 17h ago

Padding their wallets

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u/Alive_Inspection_835 17h ago

*prison wallets

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u/Western-Customer-536 16h ago

Enough of that. When was the last time a political official went to prison for something done within their role?

They legalized insider trading just for themselves.

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u/TandemCombatYogi 15h ago

Insert picture of Sad Ted Cruz phone banking for Trump here

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u/djheat 17h ago

The same Congress that passed a CR with language stopping time to empower the president's tariff nonsense is absolutely not going to take back their authority from that president

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u/TheChainsawVigilante 17h ago

TF makes you think it would even matter at this point? The rest of the world will form a bloc against us and then it won't matter if we drop the tariffs or not, the permanent damage will be done to our position in global trading

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u/tauntsauce 17h ago

“permanent damage IS done to our position”. These actually being implemented and not yanked back at the 11th hour for the 4th time has cemented the idea that Trump can no longer be expect to eventually be reasonable (after flattery and bribery). That the reliability of the rest of the global market even old rivals (ie the new Asian powers pact) is preferable to whatever unhinged end game the puppeteers behind Trump are after. Repealing the tariffs in 4 years, 1 year, tomorrow is irrelevant. Every other power in the world is going to move on without us. We have essentially trade embargo’d ourselves. 

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u/Chrisd1974 16h ago

Correct - US can’t be trusted right now, so can never be trusted again, because this 100 days has proven that there are no checks and balances in the US system. Even if the next president brings things back to normal, the whole world knows that another lurch to this bullshit is always just an election away.

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u/Ivy0789 15h ago

Only one way past that. Impeachment and conviction before end of term. Lol

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u/NeedToVentCom 16h ago

Oh for many of us, that happened long before he finally instituted these tariffs. It was all the way back when he started to threaten our sovereignty, and the sovereignty of other US allies, and the absolutely shameful way he treated Zelensky.

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u/JadedIT_Tech Georgia 19h ago

When even Fox is publishing this, you know you've really fucked up.

It's too late now. Trust is hard to gain and easy to lose, and once it's lost you'll find it won't be easy to regain.

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u/Tao_of_Ludd 18h ago

When Fox publishes this, they see the risk to the right

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u/Electromotivation 17h ago

I agree this is why they have the article but Rand Paul said it , not fox. Their front page has nothing on the economy as well and is just a bunch of BS

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u/AmishAvenger 13h ago

Actually there’s an article up right now about how the shrimp industry says they’ve had trouble competing with foreign shrimp farms, and how excited they are about the tariffs.

Which…

That’s EXACTLY the kind of thing tariffs would be used for, in a specific, targeted manner after consulting with experts.

You put a tariff on foreign shrimp, to protect American shrimp.

Which…

Isn’t what Trump did.

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u/thezaksa Texas 17h ago

We went from the world leader to pariah in like 2 months.

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u/KaiUno Europe 15h ago

Anti-american sentiment has been brewing for a lot longer than that. And I'm not talking about the "death to america" people. Though they've probably had a point for decades as well.

Granted though, your tea-party is all grown up now and ready to eff up the world big time.

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u/silent_thinker 14h ago

We might need Europe to do us a Marshall Plan after all this is done.

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u/FilthBadgers 12h ago

Once the fascists are gone, I'll vote wholeheartedly to spend British pounds helping you guys rebuild.

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u/Sup909 17h ago

You should read the comments in that linked article though. They are cringe inducing.

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u/Jimbobsupertramp 16h ago

Can’t expect Fox News readers to have intelligent takes tbf. It’s mostly, “other countries are doing tariffs and aren’t crumbling” and “before taxes, tariffs were main source of revenue for the government”

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u/steelceasar 14h ago

Fox news comments make the conservative subreddit look like a forum for geniuses, lol.

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u/findingmike 17h ago

Governor Newsom of California is doing it right: https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414

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u/gerth 16h ago

As a Californian I find it amusing and absolutely unsurprising that folks are decrying this action as unconstitutional. Not disagreeing as I believe that is true, but now they care about the Constitution? Lol

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u/whomad1215 17h ago

it's an opinion piece from Rand Paul

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u/Defcrazybutwhatabout 17h ago

Trying to close the barn door after the horses already ran through the woods, over the border, and straight into a glue factory

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES Missouri 17h ago

Trust is earned in drops & lost in buckets. Damage already done.

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u/mofroman 17h ago

well a quick scan of the comments says we should all just buy american everything. because you know, we already produce everything we consume right here in this country, parts and all.

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u/JMurdock77 15h ago

Do they even grasp that things like coffee and the lumber we use for home construction don’t even grow here?

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u/rTpure 19h ago

How can a single person have this much power in a democracy? Is congress even awake?

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u/StrangerFew2424 19h ago

They're complicit. Thank the illegitimate Supreme Court too.. 

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u/Fingerprint_Vyke 16h ago

All their billionaire friends will get to buy everyone out from under us for pennies on the dollar. Republicans always crash the market so they that can transfer more wealth from working Americans to the upper class.

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u/TuckerGTI 18h ago

They literally gave their power away on this topic to him. The house voted in a resolution a few weeks ago to make the whole year 1 long day so they don’t have to vote on a bill to stop tariffs and go against trump cause they’re little cowards. Johnston refuses to amended this even with everything going on since he’s hardcore MAGA and doesn’t see anything wrong.

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u/Purple-Revolution-88 18h ago

They are disgusting lickspittles. Absolutely despicable and worthless frauds.

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u/Jad3nCkast 18h ago

Unfortunately this is what happens when people vote for one side to have full control of each branch of govt. You asked how it happens? This is how it happens. This is what will likely bring about the end of this form of democracy as we know it. The flaws are out on full display for the world to see.

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u/DarthHiccups 18h ago

Republicans must bend knee to Incompetent Leader, because if they don't, they wont see a dime in funding support come re-election time, especially with Lara Trump as RNC Co-Chair. Also: Trump will likely target their state for federal cuts as retaliation for their perceived "disloyalty."

Republicans inaction is completely expected. By not doing anything about the tariffs, they consider themselves blameless. I can't wait for them to find out the hard way just how wrong they are.

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u/Purple-Revolution-88 18h ago

They should impeach and remove.

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u/foamy_da_skwirrel 18h ago

Will state funding cuts even matter when we're scrambling for drops of water at the foot of Orange Caligula's fortress as he tells us not to become addicted to it

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u/MacBedders 18h ago

Brit here and I was saying to my wife last night this is like Liz Truss having divine authority to Just. Keep. Going.

I wish you all luck for everyone's sake.

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u/OutrageousBrief2891 17h ago

Thank you for at least wishing us luck instead of telling all Americans to go to hell. I told my girlfriend this morning that if protests start getting organized, I'm sure as hell joining. (She doesn't want me to because we have our first 5 month old at home, but this isn't the country I served and we need to start fighting back.)

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u/thejimbo56 Minnesota 17h ago

Protests are already organized and have been occurring for weeks now.

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u/Special__Occasions 17h ago

To function properly, the American government assumes a base level of competence and good faith that does not currently exist.

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u/TargetBoy 18h ago

Republicans are complicit and the remaining Democrats don't have the numbers, even discounting the ones who are also complicit like Schumer. The Supreme Court is MAGA majority.

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u/rabidantidentyte Alaska 16h ago

Emergency powers are very useful when they're in the hands of someone like FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, or Obama. But these powers don't go away after we green light them. It was only a matter of time that someone like Trump took advantage of the steady erosion of balance of power. And for the Trump faithful that are fine with Elon Musk taking your personal data, or with Trump implementing atrocious economic policy on a whim, will they be fine with it when a Democrat does the same thing?

We have to view executive power with the nuance of: "would I be okay with this sort of power if it belonged to someone I loathe?"

The President can't declare war - only Congress can. But the President can order military operations and pressure Congress to fund it. Thus, we haven't formally declared war since 1942.

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u/bot-i-celli 18h ago

Just so everyone is aware: These tariffs were enacted under Trumps emergency powers. By the The National Emergencies Act of 1976 Congress, by law, has to submit a bill, within 15 calendar days, which decides if the emergency is legitimate, and then Congress has to vote on that bill within 3 calendar days.

So, the House Rules Committee decided that for the purposes of Congress, there are no calendar days, for the rest of the 119th Congress. I don't have the words to describe how much this bullshit pisses me off.

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u/gruese 18h ago

Is this real? They are literally changing the definition of a calendar day now?

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u/bluebird-1515 18h ago

Yes. It is real.

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u/mishma2005 15h ago

He started with the "fentanyl crisis" with Mexico and Canada, now, who knows? We have always been at war with penguins

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u/djheat 17h ago

Yes they threw that in to the continuing resolution that got passed a couple weeks ago. There are no more calendar days in this Congress when it comes to considering the time limit on Trump's tariffs

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u/gruese 17h ago edited 17h ago

I'm guessing that the concept of calendar days still exists when it comes to paying taxes in the US though, right?

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u/KingSmite23 15h ago

I mean there is no tax agency anymore because Doge cut unnecessary government spending, right?

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u/Striking_Extent 16h ago

Remember a few weeks ago when people were mad at Chuck Schumer for flipping his opinion and voting for their shitty budget thing? It was part of that. Reported on at the time too.

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u/Crimson_Raven 16h ago

That...crazy

Insane

Declaring a perpetual National Emergency to seize unconditional power is literally Dictatorship 101

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u/SaveMeClarence 17h ago

Could you explain or post a link? I don’t even know how to go about looking this up.

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u/UThinkIShouldLeave 17h ago

Here's a NY Times article on it.

Gift link.

"The national emergency law lays out a fast-track process for Congress to consider a resolution ending a presidential emergency, requiring committee consideration within 15 calendar days after one is introduced and a floor vote within three days after that. But the language House Republicans inserted in their measure on Tuesday declared that, “Each day for the remainder of the 119th Congress shall not constitute a calendar day” for the purposes of the emergency that Mr. Trump declared on Feb. 1."

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u/Electromotivation 17h ago

What the flying fuck? Somehow this got past me.

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u/Autoganz 16h ago

That’s their goal. They’re throwing out so much shit that it makes it difficult for the average person to keep up with everything at once.

There are a lot of distractions.

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u/G_Wash1776 Rhode Island 15h ago

Holy shit how was this not reported on more, all those democrats that voted in favor of this fucking handed over their authority for nothing

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u/sniper1rfa 14h ago

I think it was reported on a lot, it's just that it makes no goddamn sense to the point where people were like "huh?" and skipped over it.

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u/Em_Es_Judd 13h ago edited 12h ago

Okay. Then lock them all in that fucking chamber. Do not let them leave. Do not let them shower. Do not let them sleep. After all, it's one calendar day, right? Surely they can make it one whole day without eating, showering, or sleeping.

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u/rockbottomgeologist 16h ago

Is there any scenario where this could be a good thing?

Like, if there are no calendar days, then there’s no ‘deadline’ for when they can (dis)approve an emergency, right?

Not trying to give undue credit here. But if my logic tracks (which it may not), could that have been a move to let the emergency dec ride, see what’s done with it, and protect their ability to end it after the 15-day window if they don’t like where it’s going?

ETA: clarified phrasing

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u/HelloDikfore 13h ago

That was my thought, too. To me it reads that it would remove the deadline.

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u/MattisBest 19h ago

You have terminated your relationship with every country around the world for the foreseeable future. Tariffs or not. The effects of this fuck up won't even go away with removing the tariffs.

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u/BrianBurke 18h ago

I think he truly believes a bunch of countries and businesses are lining up to grovel at his feet this weekend. What's actually going to happen is he is gonna get shanked by 180 countries at the same time and more and more people are gonna go elbows up and boycott because he's a deplorable asshole.

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u/Gerbil-coach 18h ago

Et tu Mcdonald Islands

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u/Cantthinkofnamedamn 16h ago

March of the Penguins...to the streets!

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 15h ago

The Free Trade Coalition’s first meeting should be on McDonald Islands. 

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u/Ok_Information_9382 18h ago

Right wing Americans believe that Americans (White right leaning ones) are fundamentally and inherently better than everybody else and that the world needs them more than they need the world

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u/Yamza_ 18h ago

He isn't going to get shanked, we are. He is doing to us exactly what he wants. He will be just fine.

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u/Glass_Channel8431 18h ago

Krasnov is only doing his job. People need to realize this.

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u/Cantthinkofnamedamn 16h ago

I have heard the reason it is so many countries is so even if all the big players reject the US, the white house can still coddle Trump and tell him about the great deal he just made with Botswana or something

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u/sylbug 18h ago

The American empire is over. Countries like Canada, France, and Germany are stepping up. We will all feel the pain for a while, but when the smoke clears America will just be another irrelevant, fascist backwater, and the rest of us will have moved on to a new equilibrium.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 15h ago

I wouldn’t go that far. The US still has a massive internal consumer market. They will certainly be poorer, but still big enough to not be able to ignore. 

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u/Old-Design-9137 13h ago

They have no manufacturing base for common consumer goods, and they've just systematically destroyed their education, health and public welfare systems. They're also on the verge of civil war.

They're absolutely fucked.

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u/shunted22 12h ago

Everyone is going to be fucked from all of this, but the USA will be the most fucked yes.

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u/Lumpy-Crew-6702 19h ago

Terminate this presidency .

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u/JaB675 18h ago

Terminate Fox News also.

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u/dokikod Pennsylvania 18h ago

Speaking of Mario, pre-orders for the Nintendo Switch 2 in the US will not start on April 9, 2025, in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs. So far, the launch date of June 5, 2025, is unchanged. However, the tarrifs could impact the cost. Trump ruins everything!

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u/StrangerFew2424 19h ago edited 19h ago

*terminate the Trump presidency before it's too late

Nice to see Fox turning on their Orange Fuhrer... Lol

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u/onlainari 14h ago

Rich people don’t like tariffs.

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u/pollywog Canada 14h ago

It's Rand Paul who said it, not Fox.

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u/jmsy1 18h ago

the actual headline is "SEN RAND PAUL: Terminate the Trump tariffs before it's too late" and the article is written by Rand Paul.

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u/Mason_Miami 18h ago

I'm sorry, but: What, Fox News?(I see the URL). Aren't you getting what you wanted? People who choose party over country?

This is your shit and you should be ashamed of what you've eaten.

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u/MarkZuckerbergsPerm 18h ago

This is your baby, Fox. The chickens are coming. home to roost. All these years of propaganda and misinformation are finally paying off. You dropped you standards a bit too much by supporting tea party / maga-style scorched earth politics and you ended up killing your golden goose. Great job, you guys /s

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u/LordFiddlefart Washington 18h ago

It's already too late, and this is exactly what the American people wanted. 77 million idiots demanded it, and 90-100 million cowards chose not to stop it. This is what we deserve.

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u/hamsterballzz 15h ago

And the 73 million who showed up, fought against him for nine years, and continue to speak out? What about them?

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u/LordFiddlefart Washington 15h ago

We suffer with the rest.

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u/hamsterballzz 15h ago

Super! It’s always nice to be trapped in the asylum. I gotta get find a way out of this place.

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u/TechnologyRemote7331 14h ago

Unfortunately, that seems to be the case unless something drastic happens. Canada’s reciprocal tariffs are largely aimed at Red States, since they’re the main offenders in giving us this craziness, but that can only go so far. So while Canada and Europe undoubtedly know which parts of America are more complicit than others, in a trade war, or ANY war for that matter, you sometimes can’t pick-and-choose how to attack the “enemy.”

Until the US as a whole permanently gives Trump and MAGA the boot, or Balkanizes in such a way that Blue States contingents can start fresh with the rest of the world, we’re all stuck having to bear the consequences of stupidest 1/3 of our population.

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u/CrimsonHeretic 18h ago

It is already too late. The damage to our allies and trading partners around the world is done.

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u/DurianGris 17h ago

Not a single story about the global stock market plunge anywhere near the top of the Fox News homepage. Propaganda at work.

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u/Bosfordjd 17h ago

The best thing is to keep them. Let it flush everything down the drain. It's the only way many people will learn, they don't learn from history, or experts, they need to experience the repercussions themselves.

When a bunch boomers get their retirement fucked up, and younger voters lose jobs, and modest investments they may have had only then will it sink in.

That they were distracted by culture war BS that really has no bearing on their lives and they voted for an idiot.

His family has told us he's a moron.

His teachers have told us.

Republicans have told us.

His employees have told us.

Generals have told us.

National security advisors have told us.

His VP has told us.

Too many morons didn't think that was enough because the propaganda overrides any reasonable critical thinking. Now it's time for a lesson that's rightly deserved.

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u/fowlraul Oregon 19h ago

They haven’t tanked it enough, once they buy low, then they can pump again.

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u/FridayMcNight 19h ago

First three words of the post title are sufficient.

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u/asdwarrior2 18h ago

Nah keep them. If USA wont crash and burn then they wont learn

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u/dallasdude 17h ago

They had a chance to flush this guy forever when he ginned up a mob of his crazy goons to storm the Capitol and overturn the election.

They could do it whenever they want to - the fact that they won’t tells you all you need to know. 

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u/CockBrother 19h ago

Narrator: "It was already too late."

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u/brickout 18h ago

It's already too late. Permanent damage has been done.

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u/DJdirrtyDan Maryland 18h ago

Terminate the Trump tariffs before it’s too late

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 17h ago

What is this liberal rag, “Fox News”

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u/boralCEO Canada 17h ago

That’s because tariffs are taxes on foreign imports that are paid by American consumers.

Lmao, that Fox News article is hilarious, now that they know they f'ed up real bad, they are finally teaching their cattle electorate about what tariffs truly are.

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u/kybernetikos 17h ago

In the UK they got a new leader who destroyed the economy. They kicked her out in less time than it takes a lettuce to go bad.

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u/just_a_german_dude 18h ago

Define too Late. In My (im European) Opinion the Damage is done. Trump made it verry clear that every Contract and Trustbase for a working relationship can be null and void by decree of one person.

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u/SUNTAN_1 17h ago

Narrator: "It's too late."

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u/jkbuilder88 Minnesota 17h ago

WOOF, the comments on that post. Some people really are too stupid to help. They're so far gone they won't even believe the truth when FOX finally says it.

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u/LemmingLou 17h ago

It's already too late. Whether we keep them or not, the rest of the world has received a giant wake-up call about how unstable the US has become as a trade partner and ally

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u/Dense-Ad-5780 Canada 16h ago

Agreeing with Rand Paul makes my tummy hurt.

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u/JustALightSeeker 13h ago
  1. You, the President, have insider knowledge and immense power to move markets-especially with policy decisions like tariffs, interest rates, or regulations.

  2. You tell your friends (or use shell companies, proxies, offshore accounts-whatever keeps it distant) to buy put options (bets that the market or specific stocks will go down).

  3. You tank the market by making a public move-say, slapping heavy tariffs on key imports or stoking international tensions.

  4. Market falls, your friends make money on those puts.

  5. Later, you ease tensions or reverse the policy-lifting the tariffs, hinting at a trade deal.

  6. You then buy call options (bets that the market will rise).

  7. Market rebounds, and you (or your proxies) cash out on the other side.

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u/Griffdude13 11h ago

Terminate Trump’s presidency. He shouldn’t have ever been allowed to run again.

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u/obsertaries Massachusetts 9h ago

If I was an American trading partner it would already be too late. I know that every four years America has a possibility of electing someone who will just fuck 100 years of shit up in a matter of days.

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u/Effective_Pack8265 9h ago

It’s too late. Trump has pissed away any credibility the US once had.

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u/Angree3000 8h ago

Let em roll. Republicans need to drive this country into the wall of greatness as hard as they can so we all learn what they actually are.

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u/Heliosvector 19h ago

Fox news, what are you doing! You arent supposed to be rational.

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u/Similar_Advance9987 18h ago

They’re getting what they literally voted for. Oh well.

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u/Doorman16 18h ago

Too late! You are too late on the too late.

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u/aphtirbyrnir 18h ago

The comments on that article…

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u/Short-Ring-9705 18h ago

I've lost 7k in two days. Class action against congress for not doing their job.

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u/Various_Occasions 18h ago

The comments on that article are so depressing

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u/BehaviorControlTech 18h ago

Fox News is begging, "Daddy, please don't hurt us! We love you!"

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u/TheVoiceofReason6 18h ago

Unfortunately all the R’s in congress are addicted to the taste of trumps cum.

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u/sonictrash 17h ago

It’s too late. The world is moving on without us. Even if they’re removed, there’s no assurance that it won’t happen again with the orange idiot or some other republican idiot.

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u/PoopTransplant 17h ago

Tariffs begin at inception. Sorry, can’t abort. 

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u/macrobrain 17h ago

Terminate trump before it’s too late

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u/Pake1000 17h ago

If they reverse the tariffs now, MAGA won’t learn their lesson. Unfortunately the only way to expose a con is for people to suffer long enough to realize they’re being had.

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u/JesustheSpaceCowboy 17h ago

Nope, you made this, you got to carry it to term. You voted for this, you can’t cry while the leopard eats your face.

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u/sandyandybb 16h ago

It’s literally all up to Republicans standing up against their representatives in Republican controlled states and municipalities. They need to start getting pissed off that they were lied to and start asking question of them. Make them scared for their jobs.

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u/yosarian_reddit 9h ago

It’s already too late. The world can’t trust a nation willing to elect a person like Trump. This is generational damage.

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u/UniqueLiving3027 18h ago

Terminate trump before it’s too late.

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u/topplehat 18h ago

They’re against terminating before it reaches full term.

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u/ScootyMcTrainhat 18h ago

Senator, you had plenty of chances to stand up against this madness before now. Now you're stuck in hell with the rest of us. Go fuck yourself.

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u/AmericanDogfather 18h ago

The only way Trump tariffs get terminated is if the person who puts them in place get ousted or terminated themselves. No Republicans have the ovaries to do what needs to and should be done to stop a mad man. Some people will burn everything just to rule over the ashes.

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u/worksafe_Joe 17h ago

Fuck that, terminate the trump presidency. He's abused his office and acted outside his constitutional authority to the detriment of virtually every US citizen as well as our allies.

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u/CaptKangarooPHD 17h ago

No, don't. Voters need to learn this lesson.

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u/polishbroadcast 17h ago

GOP doesn't believe in early termination. You have to take this one to full term. Thanks Obiden!

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u/OhhhTAINTedCruuuuz Maryland 17h ago

Made the mistake of checking out the comments on the Fox article itself. I would like to bury myself alive now.

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u/Jwatts1113 16h ago

Terminate the Trump tariffs presidency before it's too late

FIFY

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u/Oceanbreeze871 I voted 15h ago

$3500 phones and $250 running shoes.

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u/Proof_Bit_8746 15h ago

Good thing I’m fat and broke

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u/kzcleve 15h ago

Could have ended the title after the third word.

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u/SookHe 15h ago

You had me hooked after the first three words

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u/newuser60 14h ago

Fox News? You mean the Trump/Fox News Tariffs? How much did Fox spend to get this idiot criminal back in the White House? He probably wouldn’t even have his cult following if Fox hadn’t spent so many years promoting him and filtering out the shit.

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u/ohioismyhome1994 14h ago

All of these Republican politicians are seeing their investments take a massive hit. I know they don’t give a shit about everyday people, but their selfishness can be beneficial here.

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u/anon56837291 14h ago

You know things have gone to shit when rand paul is the voice of reason

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u/InSixFour 14h ago

It’s too late already. A good amount of damage has already been done. Sure stopping them now would help but it’s not like everything is just going to go back to normal.

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u/ob1dylan 13h ago

No.

If we put a stop to the pain before it hurts the MAGA folks enough for them to realize that Trump has conned them, then they will just blame us for the mess he is causing.

Let them feel it. Let him own it.

Will it also hurt the rest of us? Of course! That's MAGA's whole objective. They need to see that they are also hurting themselves and that they actually need us, and (perhaps ironically) if we help them too soon, they will not learn the lessons they need to learn.

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u/PaperbackBuddha I voted 13h ago

It would’ve been great if someone had warned them.

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u/KaleLate4894 12h ago

He’s doubled down.  The world ain’t standing for it. Reciprocal every where. Like who do the fck do you think you are? There are more people in the EU.

Largest tax increase in US history.

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u/Emotional_Money3435 12h ago

Honestly, only thing that will fix this is removing this baboon and his turds from office. like, really.

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u/Noiserawker 11h ago

Rich coming from fucking fox...they got this moron elected.

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u/citizenjones 11h ago

Psst... someone tell Congress they literally control spending for the love of all that's holy.

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u/TheXypris 10h ago

It's already too late. Trump has already announced to the world that the US cannot be trusted politically, economically, socially and militarily.

As an American, I deeply hope that the rest of the world turns the US into a pariah state until we can cleanse ourselves of the disease called conservatism

u/Random-Name-7160 5h ago

“Before it’s too late”… Are you being serious?!

I just deleted a sizeable amount of data points supporting the argument of why this concept of rapid reversal is false… what’s the point.

As an economist, I feel like one of the musicians on the deck of the titanic., I simply analyze because it’s all I can do, but it won’t stop the inevitable.

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u/i-read-it-again 18h ago

Terminate the tariffs. Fuk no. Let’s see the trump economic growth. You all will have so much money. You won’t know what to do with it . I think that’s what he said

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u/letsago9987 Illinois 18h ago

its too late. the world is preparing to move on from us. even if the tariffs end today we have no trust or credibility left.

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u/Szeto802 18h ago

Rand Paul can eat my ass.
Sincerely, someone who made over 15,000 phone calls for Rand Paul in NH back in 2015

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u/sylbug 18h ago

It’s already too late. You can’t change your mind after abdicating.

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u/No-Significance5449 17h ago

terminating the tariffs isn't far enough, the implementer's employment at minimum should be terminated.

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u/Alpacatastic American Expat 17h ago

We probably should stop upvoting bullshit news organizations just because they sometimes makes sense.

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u/outragedUSAcitizen 16h ago

It is too late...even if you stopped it now you are going to feel the effect for the next year. People are already fired, prices have increased, vendors are fired, plants shut down...even if you wanted to open new manufacturing plants in the USA..you are talking 3 years.

The GOP have to impeach Trump.

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u/discountRabbit Canada 16h ago

I never imagined I could read something by Rand Paul and agree with it. This surely a terrible omen.

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u/legendaryhawnsolo 16h ago

What’s done is done. USA wants to try and walk it back, I hope every country holds strong to squeeze the USA out of trade and everything else. Some things can’t be undone and walked back, especially knowing the Donald didn’t give a fuck and would throw whoever under the bus when giving the chance.