Clearly a massive sell off is happening, are traders (big and small) just sitting on cash once they sell? Gold, the bastion of safe heavens, is also getting hit.

Bonds? Simple interest? Are any sectors up in this mess?

US equities are not looking great. Global equities are not looking great. The USD doesn’t look all that safe…neither does the credit market. Precious metals and natural resources seem like a contender as does real estate. There’s one obvious category that I haven’t mentioned - and won’t.

A couple of weeks after Trump was elected, I liquidated a 7-figure account and figured I would sit in cash. In January, I started buying things like EUAD and CLOZ because I was trying to figure out where some modest returns could be had while the US equity market adjusts. We’re all here trying to do our best, so what are everyone’s plays?

I’m looking at precious metals and real estate. Slowly moving back into specific equities (Costco, Goldman, etc) once the waters seem a little safer.

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You have companies like UHG and Cigna not that far off from their ATHs. I would've thought that just the rumour of possible cuts to medicaid and medicare wouldve send these stocks spiraling down. Instead UHG was rising yesterday morning while most stocks were falling. As if people were seeing it as a safe haven.

Of course I understand that health services will go on no matter what happens, but if jobs are lost then their commercial side loses contracts. If republicans gut medicaid, thats a good chunk of business right there also lost. And if Medicare were to be drastically cut (unlikely but you never know) then it would be potential game over for these conpanies. Help me understand.

Thank you

On April 3, 2025, President Donald Trump indicated a willingness to reduce tariffs if other nations offer “something phenomenal” in return, suggesting openness to negotiations despite recent tariff implementations. Speaking aboard Air Force One, he defended the tariff strategy, asserting that the economic turbulence would settle and expressing satisfaction with falling interest rates. This stance follows the administration’s imposition of a 10% minimum tariff on all U.S. trading partners, with higher rates for specific countries, aiming to address perceived trade imbalances. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-03/trump-says-he-s-open-to-reducing-tariffs-for-phenomenal-offers?embedded-checkout=true

China has hit back with 32% retaliatory tariffs, with expectations that other countries will follow suit

Global investor sentiment that stocks will fall in the next 6 months hits 62%, a level not seen since March 2009 during the housing bubble crisis.

What is everyone doing? Selling? DCA'ing this dip down? What should reasonable expectations for recovery be? Either the US uses this to negotiate new deals or continues this policy of isolationism for years?

edit: China is hitting back with 34% tariffs, not 32%

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-tariffs-trade-war-04-04-2025/card/mood-among-everyday-investors-hits-lowest-since-2009-RBXZQ82ntqm0aKuZpsMB?mod=WSJ_home_supertoppermiddle_lctimeline

31 years old… lives through the 2020 pandemic scare and now the new tariff scare and I finally understand the meaning of “time in the market” I remember in 2020 when COVID was at its peak and all we saw was the increased deaths; global shut downs and peak uncertainty. Everyday turning on the TV was a scare; going to work at the hospital was a nightmare.

All I can say is ; seeing the stock market survive that and rebound to new highs reassured me that all will be ok. Now I now a lot of people will comment here… but this is different.. tARrifs … but it’s really not just another form of fear which humans will adapt too and overcome.

To all the young ones; I’m not a financial adviser but worse thing to do is panic sell. Find good companies with high profit margins low debt lots of cash on hand to wether the storm. If it’s too much work you can DCA into ETFs. You’ll be happy in 3-5 years.

Good luck and peace all; spreading positivity in a bloody environment :)

P.S I love the dips… give me more

Let’s say I bought some ETF last week and I’m already down 10%. Can I sell it now (within 30 days) and NOT have a wash sale if I don’t buy similar ETF for the next 30 days?

Also, how does the financial institution or IRS determine wash sale for ETFs as they are many “similar “ ETFs?

What prevents an institution from participating in a market sell off even if their customers aren't selling?

I asked ChatGPT:

🧾 Hypothetical: Could Something Like What You Described Happen?

Let’s play with your scenario:

1. You "own" 100 shares of Apple at $230 in your Schwab account.
2. Schwab secretly sells your shares during a crash.
3. Apple drops to $200.
4. You go to sell, and Schwab buys them at $200 and delivers to the buyer.

This would imply Schwab sold what it didn't own and delayed delivering shares to the buyer until later — effectively naked shorting.

This is illegal under SEC rules — unless Schwab explicitly disclosed it and settled within the allowed window (typically T+2 days). But naked shorting by brokers on client shares is heavily monitored and penalized.

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Given that scenario, why wouldn't Schwab sell my shares and rebuy them that same day or the next day?

And is it really 'heavily monitored'? I have some experience in another line of work and there are things that are 'heavily monitored' that are not monitored at all.

I am curious about this though...is there enough separation between the SEC and the Executive Branch that would fully enforce this?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-economy-added-228000-jobs-in-march-unemployment-rate-rises-to-42-203511589.html

The March jobs report showed unemployment rate increased in March while the US labor market added more jobs than expected. The report comes as markets are in a tailspin following President Trump's stronger-than-expected tariff stance.

Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Friday showed 228,000 new jobs were created in March, more than the 140,000 expected by economists, and above than the 117,000 seen in February. The unemployment rate rose to 4.2% from the 4.1% seen in the prior month. February's monthly job gains were revised lower from a previous reading of 151,000.

The jobs report comes as two days after Trump's shock tariff announcement sent markets reeling and raised fears the US economy could tip into recession. Ahead of Friday's report stock futures were already deeply in the red, adding to a $2.5 trillion wipeout from Thursday, after China said on Friday it will impose additional tariffs of 34% on all US products from April 10 — matching the extra 34% duties imposed by Trump on Wednesday.

Dow Jones Industrial Average futures (YM=F) pulled back 3.2% or over 1,300 points. S&P 500 futures (ES=F) sank 3.4%, while contracts on the tech-heavy Nasdaq 100 (NQ=F) dropped 3.7%.

Wage growth, an important measure for gauging inflation pressures, rose 3.8% over the prior year in March, down from the 4% seen in February. On a monthly basis, wages increased 0.3%, up from the 0.2% seen the prior month.

Meanwhile, the labor force participation rate fell rose to 62.5% from the 62.4% seen in February.

who knows it could go deeper than it is now but one thing i know for sure is that large stocks are now 30-50% cheaper than the last peak and it's good price to buy in.

I'm looking at below.

most these stocks already hit weekly 120 lines.

AMZN

APPL

MSFT

CRM

GOOGL

META (still could go down)

if we can't buy now because of fear, we can never buy when real chances come.

I have a coverdell ESA invested in tech.. it dropped over $700 of the 5,000 I had..

Think I should just get out now? I can wait to withdraw until summer, August or so too, but I guess I stand to lose a whole lot more money huh?

Thanks for any kind advice you might offer me..

Only March 16th, 2020, had a larger fall with -$324.89 (-11.98%). Three other Covid days, March 12th (-9.51%), March 9th, (-7.60%) and June 11th (-5.89%) are the only other trading days since 2011 with a worse percentage drop than today.

I'm relatively new to the stock market (about 3 to 5 years of experience) and I'm finding myself in a bit of a tough spot with this current market downturn. I've been watching the free fall, and I'm struggling to figure out how long it might last.

I understand market cycles can be unpredictable, but I'm hoping to get some perspective from more experienced traders. Are there any indicators or patterns that you look for when determining how long these kinds of downturns last?

Are you just doing DCA ?

We cannot predict the future and anyone who tells you something is guaranteed to happen is someone I wouldn't listen to but we can use the past to help us make better decisions, moving forward.

So much fear everywhere it's sad to see but that's the way people are. In my opinion, if you feel terrible or stressed out, you invested money you shouldn't have.

A simple rule I use is I invest money I am willing to lose. When I buy a stock, I part with that money and believe there's a chance I'll never see that money again. Now, common sense will tell you the SP500 will never go to $0 but for emotional purposes, I take this approach.

I go over my finances and make sure I won't need the money I invest if a worst case scenario were to happen. Once you do that, you no longer are emotionally tied to that money and can make good decisions.

The good part: time is on your side. The more time that passes the more gains, you'll eventually have. After 5/10/15 years (different every time), you'll have 50%+ gains and once you get there, even if 2008 happens, all youre losing is your gains.

How will this help you now? It won't. But it can help you moving forward.

If you are feeling stressed/panic/fear, then you were greedy and invested more than you should have. Greed is a terrible thing and will ruin you.

Educate yourselves. Great thing about the internet is it's a free tool to learn.

Small and medium sized banks are leveraged below water - interest rates not moving and corporate mortgages and consumer debt being at record highs with a collapsing stock market is a dangerous mix . The removal of the Frank Dodds protections means that there has been very little oversight since trumps first term. These banks collapsing are likely to take other banks with them -

JPM analysts say Trump’s combined tariff hikes amount to a 22% increase—comparable to the largest U.S. tax rise since 1968. As a result, the bank has raised its estimated risk of a global recession to 60%, up from 40%.

https://www.forexlive.com/news/jp-morgan-raises-global-recession-risk-to-60-as-trumps-tariffs-hit-us-growth-20250403/

https://uk.investing.com/news/economy-news/carney-if-the-united-states-does-not-want-to-lead-canada-will-4013689

https://globalnews.ca/video/11114051/if-the-u-s-no-longer-wants-to-lead-canada-will-carney-proposes-global-free-trade-coalition

In a speech that felt part campaign rally, part obituary for American leadership, Mark Carney-Canada's next prime minister if polling holds-didn't just respond to Trump's economic firebombs. He redefined the moment. Calmly. Directly. And in plain language the whole world could hear:

"The global economy is fundamentally different today than it was yesterday. The system of global trade anchored on the United States... is over."

Carney didn't hedge. Didn't soften. He flat-out declared that the 80-year era of American-led economic order is done, and Canada is preparing to take its rightful place-not as a sidekick-but as a new global leader for democratic nations that still believe in rules, partnerships, and actual adults running the show.

"Our old relationship of steadily deepening integration with the United States is over. The 80-year period when the United States embraced the mantle of economic leadership... is over. While this is a tragedy, it is also the new reality."

Krazy Kramer may be on to something with his latest interview. He admits he’s a bozo believing tariffs would benefit the US Market: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/03/business/video/jim-cramer-trump-tariffs-ebof-digvid

Since Trump placed tariffs on nearly every country in the world, how could the US head economically in the next few months? Stocks have already fallen significantly. Could we be entering another recession or Great Depression?

The biggest advantage we as a nation enjoy is our formally massive lead over China. With their stealthy acquisitions of the Hopper to enable such huge leaps in the many ways to utilize all that compute power. So, riddle me this Batman? Why in the world wouldn’t we install a geolocation switch (hidden of course) so when it’s powered up in a NO GO ZONE it simply shuts down? I’m no scientist but my electrical background this is as simple as it gets! Cheap too boot

RKLB: The Musk‑Free Space Stock Ready to Soar 🚀

Elon Musk’s antics and political ties are starting to spook investors – from protests at Tesla showrooms to falling sales . Enter Rocket Lab (NASDAQ: RKLB), a pure-play space company with no Musk baggage and strong fundamentals. Rocket Lab just posted record revenue of $436 million in 2024 (up 78% YoY) , yet the stock has pulled back after a recent dip, creating an opportunity. Here’s why RKLB could be a stellar long-term pick:

• Beating Expectations, Despite the Dip: Q4 2024 revenue jumped 121% year-over-year . But cautious Q1 guidance (~$120M vs $135M expected) spooked the market, and RKLB stock fell ~11% on that news – now down ~30% in the past month . This pullback looks technical, not fundamental, as the company is still growing fast.
• Strong Backlog & Partnerships: Rocket Lab’s order backlog hit $1.1 billion by end-2024 , nearly half from government contracts. They build satellites for NASA/DoD and just won a role in the U.S. Space Force’s NSSL program (a launch contract pool worth up to $5.6B) . In short, reliable revenue streams backed by government and commercial clients.
• Upcoming Catalyst – Neutron Rocket: In 2025, Rocket Lab plans to debut Neutron, a medium-lift, partially reusable rocket aimed at competing with SpaceX’s Falcon 9 . Management confirms it’s on track for H2 2025 launch . Success could unlock larger payload missions and massive new contracts. (Some skeptics think it slips to 2026 , but even a slight delay doesn’t derail the vision.)
• Elon Who? Unlike SpaceX, Rocket Lab is publicly traded and not tied to Musk’s volatility. Musk’s close alliance with politicians and controversial behavior are now seen as business risks . By contrast, Rocket Lab CEO Peter Beck stays out of politics and focuses on execution. That makes RKLB a cleaner investment narrative if you’re wary of “key-man risk.”

Bottom line: Rocket Lab offers high growth (launch and satellite services) without the Musk drama. Analysts are bullish too (price targets range ~$24–33 , well above the current price). With the stock trading off its highs and Elon’s shine wearing off, RKLB could be ready for liftoff in portfolios looking for the next space success story. Do your DD, but this under-the-radar rocket company might just shoot for the moon. 

During a 40 year old timespan, do yall think ETFs like VTI and VOO will just be strong? The market is currently drifting apart, as a result of the new tariffs. The market is experiencing new lows. Is this just a blip, or possible uncrowning of the United Stares as a world power. Other countries are starting to get off the US. Things look bleak if Trump doesn’t change the tariffs.

How can you do it? It is not clear where the service originated nor where you are currently located.

Let's say you pay 10$ sub for google as someone who lives in Germany, how the government gonna charge you on that?

They need google to play along, charge in their name and pass that money to the government.

Ok so google wants to cooperate how do they know which country they need to pay to and how much to charge?

If I subscribed while I was in USA and then moved to Germany does the price need to update? How would it know I moved?

Even if I have never been in USA how do they know I am from Germany? I can lie about my country

Ok let's say you check IP, what about VPNs?

And who said that the service is even American, if google has a hub in Ireland and their servers are in Ireland is it even a USA service?

All that talk about EU tarrifing services is sceine fiction, I just see no way to actually enforce it

I’m a low income homeowner sitting on about $20k in home equity, I have about $10k in cash savings I’ve built up over the years and a parcel of property I paid off now worth about $60k (I paid $15k). Should I sell my home and reinvest in building on the nicer (Lake view) property? Or should I cash out savings, sell property, and refinance current home all to invest while the Stock Market is low? Or any combination of these?