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The Andrew Tate Effect in Schools
 in  r/perth  4d ago

The “loverboy” method involves seducing victims into false romantic relationships to exploit them sexually. What Tate has described of doing MULTIPLE times, is the EXACT definition of this. 

Remember what he said on his website: “My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together.”  

He took this down and literally pretended he never said this in the BBC interview.

He has said on fresh & fit: “They were all from different places in the world,” (referring to the women he has recruited) “I had them all fly in, sat them all down together.”  Totally doesn’t sound shady.

In an interview, Tate explained: “You have to instill a sense of fear and respect in her.”

He openly talked about leveraging relationships to recruit women: “You promise them a dream… and then you exploit them later.”

He has admitted from HIS OWN MOUTH, that he has exploited them. He has SPECIFICALLY used the words “exploit” and “obedience” himself MULTIPLE times. There are clips online that you can see where he says shit like this.

Tate has also explained how he would uses women in the business to recruit other women:  "I'm going to find the girl, and I'm going to bring her to you, and you're going to tell her how good it is to work for me, and how great it is to do this webcamming thing and how smart we are.”

He has explicitly said: “I don't mention webcam until after I've had sex with the girl”. 

I wonder why that is if he’s completely innocent and this business has no manipulation or illegal activity involved in it whatsoever. Withholding information for the purpose of deceit is literally FRAUD.

Even Tate’s former bodyguard described scenarios that align with the “loverboy” method:  “Some of the girls misunderstood the reality and believed they were his girlfriends.”

He also claimed:  “Over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriends at the time and, of all my girlfriends, NONE were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me.”  

All of these suggest deliberate strategy to lure women into romantic relationships with the intent of coercing them into sex work, which is exactly what the loverboy method is. You can’t look at this and pretend like this guy has good intentions and this is perfectly fine and legal.

Jordan Peterson and other figures of the daily wire have also consistently criticised him and called him out on his crimes, but tell me more about how it’s the “lefties” who are clueless. Ben Shapiro has done a whole video exposing his crimes and the fact that a lot of his wealth is fake as well. 

Andrew Tate has also publicly expressed his disdain for paying taxes and described evasive behaviors:  In a video, Tate stated: “When I lived in England I refused to pay tax.”  

This is a BLATANT admission to evasion of taxes. Like I said, he has admitted all of his crimes on CAMERA. You don’t have to be a genius to figure out that he’s a horrible person and guilty of everything he’s done. You can literally watch like a few clips of him and tell what kind of person he is. This is if you have common sense and critical thinking.

He even further explained his approach:  “Ignore, ignore, ignore because in the end they go away.”  

"I like Eastern Europe as a whole because corruption is far more accessible," he said. "I find it offensive that a police officer in England will stop me and refuse to take a bribe."  His own words.

Contradictions in Tate’s statements about his webcam business also prove he’s a pathological liar and is guilty: 

In an interview, Tristan claimed they no longer operated the webcam business. 

However, in a 2020 interview, Andrew Tate stated: “I’ve been running a webcam studio for nearly a decade.”  

Turns out you’re just brainwashed and full of yourself. Who knew.

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The Andrew Tate Effect in Schools
 in  r/perth  4d ago

You’re objectively wrong. It’s funny because people like you who flaunt “logic” are always the most illogical, easily manipulated and emotional people. 

You literally know nothing about the case, have done no actual research (which you don’t even have to, because he has admitted to crimes HIMSELF, on CAMERA, precisely because he knows people like you are naive and won’t believe him), yet you’re so loud and confident about it and even dare to insult the other person who is telling you that they’re more informed and have done actual research on the case.

I wasn’t initially gonna waste time giving you evidence, but your ego’s too high so here it is.

  1. First off, let's start with the Loverboy Method: The Loverboy method is a manipulative recruitment tactic commonly used by traffickers, particularly in Eastern Europe. It involves seducing vulnerable women by feigning romantic interest, showering them with affection, gifts, and promises of a better life. Once trust and emotional dependence are established, the trafficker isolates the victim from her support network and coerces her into sex work. This method preys on the victim's emotional vulnerabilities, making her more susceptible to manipulation and control.

Here is the definition of the loverboy method: “Lover boys’ are human traffickers who usually operate by trying to make young people fall in love with them. Once they have victims under their influence, they exploit them, for instance in the sex industry or for other illegal activities.”

AT has OPENLY admitted to employing this method. On his now-archived website (because he’s a coward, just like his followers), he described his method on detail:

“My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together.”

This statement perfectly describes his deliberate strategy of emotional manipulation to lure women into sex work under the guise of a romantic relationship. By HIS OWN admission, he exploited women’s affection to coerce them into performing on webcams, a clear indication of human trafficking practices. BY DEFINITION. 

  1. The War Room AT's "War Room" is an exclusive network with a membership fee of approximately $8,000 per year. While he advertises it as a platform for "personal development" and networking, leaked chats reveal everything they've actually done and stand for. 

The War Room basically offers a course cynically titled the "phd" program, which AT says stands for "pimpin hoes degree" (very godly and traditional, right?) Which instructs members on literal techniques to seduce, MANIPULATE, and isolate women, ultimately coercing them into performing on webcams. Leaked messages from the War Room expose explicit discussions about these methods. For example, a leading member using the name "Joe Lampton" described an incident where he reacted to a complaint from a woman working for him:

"I took her keyboard and hit her in the head with it. She went into the room and worked 7 hours without any break."

This should literally tell you everything about what War Room is about and what goes on behind closed doors: coercion and abuse. They literally have a whole network of exploiting women and supporting each other in doing so, and advertising it as a business of “self help" on how to become a masculine man to young men. After they recruit women, their tactics involve ongoing psychological manipulation to maintain control over victims. Members are taught to isolate women from their support systems, instill dependency, and employ “tests of submission" to break their will, ESPECIALLY on religious women. One such test includes coercing women to tattoo the War Room members initials on their bodies, symbolizing ownership and control.

Eli, a former head of sales and marketing at AT’s organization, described the War Room as a "cult" and admitted to being "brainwashed" during his tenure. He revealed that the group's primary focus was on acquiring women who would serve the members interests, exposing their exploitative system.

  1. Victim Testimonies The theoretical strategies discussed within the War Room have had real impact on women, many of who have actually come out and spoken about it in interviews. Two victims, referred to as "Maria" and "Amanda" to protect their identities, shared their experiences: Maria: Believed she was in a genuine romantic relationship, only to be manipulated into sex work. She endured violence and was isolated from her friends and family, leaving her dependent on the abuser. Amanda: Was coerced into giving up to 80% of her earnings, totaling $95,000, to War Room members. She was also subjected to physical abuse. The techniques implemented on these victims are literally consistent with everything AT has ADMITTED of doing.

  2. Leadership Within War Room AT is presented as the public face of the War Room, but investigations have uncovered that a figure known as "Iggy Semmelweiss" (real name Miles Sonkin) serves as the ACTUAL intellectual leader. He is behind everything. Sonkin, a former member of alleged cults, provides new members with reading materials and a manifesto that outlines the group's exploitative agenda. The reading materials and lectures involve teaching on dark manipulation, hypnosis, psychology (such as pavlonian conditioning), etc. Chats have been leaked of them literally discussing on methods on how to manipulate women, to the point where they become obedient and responsive like dogs. if this doesn't scream cult and illegal, I don't know what does.

  3. Contradictions from AT In interviews with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, AT has denied any wrongdoing, and has misinterpreted the case on purpose. For example, in an interview with Candace he claimed that he never took money from his webcam girls and that they always received their fair share. Meanwhile, this is literally a previous statement from HIS OWN MOUTH: "I had these girls working for me, and they thought they were making money. But in reality, I was stealing most of it."

Wanna tell me again about how he’s not guilty?

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There’s something off about r/askmen men
 in  r/self  5d ago

  1. Someone looking for a richer person could be looking to exploit, but we don’t make that illegal because it is in the person’s right who owns the wealth to protect himself or sue against exploitation. The person who owns something, has the right to decide how to distribute it or share it, and if they feel exploited or taken advantage of, they can seek legal recourse. It’s a matter of individual agency.  We don’t make it illegal for a woman to seek a richer man because the ownership of wealth does not inherently involve an imbalance of power or exploitation. If both parties are consenting adults, the wealth holder has the agency to determine how their resources are used. In other words, if I have a bunch of chocolates, and someone asks me for one, that’s not necessarily exploitation, it is asking the owner of the goods (in this case me) to distribute the goods in their free will, and if I decide to give one to the other person because I like that person and I choose to share my chocolates with them, I’m acting from my full agency and responsibility of the ownership of my chocolates. It is in my hands to do whatever I want with them, and if I feel that I’m being manipulated, I can take appropriate action. 

2. In contrast, when an older man seeks a younger woman, the power dynamics are different. This is different because someone who has something, is looking for someone else who doesn’t. This raises questions. Why would you seek for someone to be completely dependent on you? Less mature, less experienced, more vulnerable? We don’t necessarily understand why that person is “preying” on the other vulnerable person. So to protect the vulnerable person, we create laws. 

The younger woman may not possess the physical, emotional,  or psychological maturity to understand or navigate the relationship fully, especially if she’s underage or very young. This power imbalance opens a door for exploitation. Here we have another ethical concern, which is the potential for manipulation, where the older party might use their age, life experience, power, strength or authority to gain an unfair advantage. 

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I was banned for no reason?
 in  r/Tiktokhelp  5d ago

So did you ever get it back?

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The Andrew Tate Effect in Schools
 in  r/perth  5d ago

No, you’re actually just clueless and objectively wrong. No amount of you whining or crying changes what’s objectively true. 

I could make a whole book analysing all the OBVIOUS evidence that anyone who isn’t brainwashed and easily manipulated can see, but you’re not one of those types.

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Why did Schopenhaurer had such views on women? His mother also found him very annoying and difficult to live with. Did he make a mistake by letting pessimism seep in too much aspects of his life?
 in  r/Pessimism  5d ago

Exactly, I’m not wasting my time with a basement dwelling woman hater who pretends he’s saying anything of logic or value. It’s funny you pose as a certain thing only to fool yourself, but anyone with an ounce of sense can see how you are. Glad you got the not wasting time with you tho! Seems like it’s not the first time someone told you that. The only one coping here is you, and it’s so beyond visible it’s embarrassing. Go convince yourself, not me. I just feel pity for the 9 months wasted

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There’s something off about r/askmen men
 in  r/self  5d ago

No, because someone who is looking for a taller or richer person isn’t looking to get abused or exploited. The person who’s looking for someone weaker, younger, or lesser than in certain areas is the one who’s doing the predatory behaviour. Again, simple. Those are like not the same things at all. 

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There’s something off about r/askmen men
 in  r/self  5d ago

No, one is predatory and whoever defends it is a pred, and the other isn’t. For example, you can like children and someone else likes a taller person. Notice how one is problematic and the other isn’t? Notice how there’s also laws regarding age but there’s no laws regarding height? Why? Cause they’re not the same thing at all, in any metric. Simple. 

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There’s something off about r/askmen men
 in  r/self  5d ago

again, height and age are not the same thing.. at ALL. You’re not getting the point. 

And we can tell what kind of men “like” younger women

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There’s something off about r/askmen men
 in  r/self  5d ago

that sub is full of misogyny what are you talking about lmao yall are just mad you cant say it loudly anymore

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There’s something off about r/askmen men
 in  r/self  5d ago

height and age are not the same thing

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Why did Schopenhaurer had such views on women? His mother also found him very annoying and difficult to live with. Did he make a mistake by letting pessimism seep in too much aspects of his life?
 in  r/Pessimism  6d ago

Yeah, you strengthened my opinion even more now. 

Just don’t respond anymore lmao I’m not wasting my time with a woman hater. 

Males shouldn’t be birthed anymore and that’s it. You’re a primary example why 

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[2025] I got my TikTok account unbanned. Here is how to get yours unbanned too!
 in  r/Tiktokhelp  6d ago

no lmao im still trying and nothing happens

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Is anyone else absolutely tired of these bOtH sIdEs takes?
 in  r/RadicalFeminism  6d ago

That’s not the point of this. You’re not saying anything that actually tackles the point of the argument.

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Why are so man young western men becoming Muslim?
 in  r/Christian  6d ago

Because he is, just like you. 🫶🏻 

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Why did Schopenhaurer had such views on women? His mother also found him very annoying and difficult to live with. Did he make a mistake by letting pessimism seep in too much aspects of his life?
 in  r/Pessimism  6d ago

So it’s okay to hate women but not men. Lol typical. 

Your comment is the exact same reason why misandry is justified. I said what I said and meant it. I don’t think men are human like women, that’s just MY opinion. 

You’re just mad because you’re not capable of spewing misogyny anymore without facing social consequences back. Boohoo.

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The Andrew Tate Effect in Schools
 in  r/perth  6d ago

Right. So you’re just clueless yet still running your mouth. Typical. I know about his case extensively and you’re astronomically wrong. Like you’re hugely mistaken. You wouldn’t care tho cause you’d rather believe what makes you feel good.

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The Andrew Tate Effect in Schools
 in  r/perth  7d ago

Oh so youre THAT level of clueless on the case? Its funny because its always the clueless people that have the most to say. Id suggest you watch some videos people have made exposing all the evidence, including a literal LAWYER, but you’re already convinced in ur bias.

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Is anyone else absolutely tired of these bOtH sIdEs takes?
 in  r/RadicalFeminism  7d ago

“Like yeah there's toxic women because women are human beings and aren't perfect, but the cultural context of the society we live in, conditions the behaviours of both men and women to be different and constructed in a way that always puts women in MUCH greater disadvantages. We aren't "equally" toxic. Like it's not even comparable.” 

I kinda explain that in the post, interpersonal relationships within men and women are directly affected by patriarchal constructs. What forms society also impacts the relationships we have with one another, as well as the way we view one another. Therefore women cannot be “equally” toxic in that sense, yes they can ABSOLUTELY be toxic (and aren’t excluded from the burden of accountability) but not toxic in the SAME ways and for the same reasons, that would make both parties “equally” responsible for the same exact things which is not historically true. It is not what we see realistically. Men and women do not have the same behaviours or the same intentions. They behave from completely different povs. If we live in a patriarchal society, a man is going to always look for ways to exploit or abuse a woman, even if it’s subconsciously. Boys are socialised to believe themselves as better snd superior, therefore immediately grasping onto that power and looking for any way to exploit it and hold onto it. On the other hand, a woman is going to look for ways to protect herself, whether that be “rebellion” or seeking approval from men. Hence the cycle between the relationships of men and women is always going to be that of power (man) and vulnerability (woman). In this framework, we can always tell who is at risk of being abused more, and all the things that come out of that, if you know what I mean. There’s chaos in between them and a woman’s free will also means she has the capability to be toxic, but at the end of the day it is not in the same measure, or something that can be judged by applying the same standards of “both sides are playing the same game, and we need to take accountability”. That’s just not true. It paints a false picture if you get what I mean. 

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Why did Schopenhaurer had such views on women? His mother also found him very annoying and difficult to live with. Did he make a mistake by letting pessimism seep in too much aspects of his life?
 in  r/Pessimism  7d ago

I love how the opinions that don’t make me feel good are just pure misogyny and I’m supposed to ignore that and not have any reaction at all. Like you might find this shocking but if you see half of the population as lesser than and you create literal ideologies around that and spew that constantly, the other half is gonna start to “hate” you. 

If you’re truly about protecting different opinions then let me have my different opinion regarding men. Why are you bothered by it? If men say women are inferior and don’t deserve rights I’m allowed to say what I want in reaction to that.  I love how you say nothing to the men spewing misogyny but me reacting against that is a problem. Like it totally doesn’t sound like you’re a dishonest hypocrite.

And yes, the first sentence is right. I’ll absolutely start hating someone who doesn’t see me as human or sees me as lesser than. What a shocker. Stay mad. 

r/RadicalFeminism 7d ago

Is anyone else absolutely tired of these bOtH sIdEs takes?

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Is anyone else tired of this “both sides are bad” nonsense? Like, it’s honestly insane how people act like women and men suffer equally in society. Everyone knows women have it worse. These “neutrality” takes do nothing but secretly help men by pushing the narrative that women are just as bad as men, which feeds directly into internalized misogyny. These women literally compare a few toxic women to the violent misogyny and hatred men embody. Men literally hate women and openly say they wish they didn’t have rights, they have whole podcasts with millions of views where they spew pure vitriol and dehumanise women, but somehow women saying they hate men BECAUSE of that is “equal”? No. It’s not the same at all.

And honestly, a few women being toxic just proves that we’re human, like no shit. You didn't prove anything by saying that. You just found out women aren't perfect angels which is a patriarchal expectation that's put upon them. That doesn't prove any "neutrality" argument or that both sides suffer equally. A lot of the toxic behavior women have is a way to cope with the patriarchy that forces them into impossible positions. It's also funny how when women show toxicity, they’re IMMEDIATELY judged. When men spew hatred and violence for DECADES, no one calls for neutrality. No one says “Oh let’s just be neutral and blame both sides!” No, we’re expected to accept that men’s violence is just a normal part of life or it's just how society and gender dynamics work.

It's the same as when men spew misogyny nobody says anything and if women react they're called dramatic, but if a woman says anything SLIGHTLY bad or negative about men EVERYONE starts talking about how "we are all flawed 🥺🥺" and to not live in a miserable victim mindset.

The moment a woman is less than perfect or shows frustration, suddenly it’s both sides. These women who date women and start claiming they “understand” men are so naive and deluded. They don’t understand that our actions relate to the context of a patriarchal society that’s constantly trying to keep us in check, and they use that to dismiss our valid frustrations. Like yeah there's toxic women because women are human beings and aren't perfect, but the cultural context of the society we live in, conditions the behaviours of both men and women to be different and constructed in a way that always puts women in MUCH greater disadvantages. We aren't "equally" toxic. Like it's not even comparable. This is just pure gaslighting lmao.

It’s honestly laughable. Men have been systematically horrible for centuries, oppressing women and pushing them down at every turn. But when a woman or a few women show toxic behaviour it's a gender war emergency and we need to talk about both sides being toxic? When is that energy when men scream from the rooftops that women and girls are lesser than and don't deserve rights?

It's so funny how people claim both sides have it bad, they "both" have their own struggles and need to take accountability, but how come when men, from EVERY SINGLE TIMELINE, are asked if they’d trade places with women, they ALWAYS say no, and even make fun of women for being women??? Men LITERALLY admit that being a woman is worse, and that’s been consistent across every poll, ever. For example there's multiple studies showing that when kids are interviewed in a classroom and the boys are asked if they'd like living as the opposite gender and vice versa for girls, the answer from boys is followed by STRONG disapprovals and degrading sexist jokes, such as "I'd k*** myself if I was a girl". So how can anyone still claim there’s some kind of neutral, equal experience? That we both have it bad and both need to take "accountability"? This accountability word is used soo out of place it annoys the hell out of me lmao. If men think being a woman is such a downgrade, maybe it’s time we listen to the people actually living the experience of oppression instead of pretending there’s some equal “toxic” problem on both sides. When we truly get to the root of the problem, we're able to find ACTUAL solutions on how to solve these issues, but pretending things are equal is just pure delusion and ignorance. Like it's literally denying the society we live in.

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"I'm a female and I hate feminism"
 in  r/AsABlackMan  8d ago

You’re actually not right if you believe women shouldn’t have lives outside their homes