She was dressed just fine, it was the chair and the position they had her sitting in, up higher than the audience.
And she was dignified enough to realize it
I was at club once with my wife, my good friend and his girlfriend…and HER twin sister. Buddy on left. Wife and twins on HIS left, all dancing together. He and I were facing the stage.
Out of the corner of my eye, i notice someone is not dancing. I look over and a woman and her friend were being kind of harassed by these two dude bros wearing tank tops and on some sorta drug. They were in front of the not dancing girls and backing into them overtly; obviously making them uncomfortable.
I made eye contact with her and mouthed…”you ok?”
she shook her head no.
So i motioned left with my head and pointed to my wife and the twins.
The two girls squeeze through and the guys try to follow and i cut them off with my best white guy dancing. 🤷🏻♂️
it was super pact and they couldn’t casually dance or nudge their way over, so they stayed put. The ladies danced with my wife and friends. Me and my buddy continued holding hands.
(joke)
later…the wife asks me about the girl. she said she gushed about me saving the night and how fucking terrible those guys were being.
This shit happens to women so much…I’m not a white knight or whatever…but i was glad
to have helped in that moment. You could tell they really appreciated it.
I had a sorta similar situation on a work night out. Was chatting to some of my female colleagues and a male colleague came over and grabbed one of the girls by their waist and dragged them off to dance, whilst she was still mid sentence. I asked if she was uncomfortable and she said “yeah” so i grabbed the guys arm and told him to be more respectful.
He spent the next few hours slagging me off to my workmates and grabbed the girl again which i corrected him on again.
Later on i was smoking outside and i get a text from another girl saying “can you save me from the guy, hes being really weird”, so i stormed in and grabbed him by the collar, pushed him around a bit and said a few choice words. I left straight away bc i knew id end up swinging at some point, and most of the girls who were there left with me because they didnt want to be around him if i wasnt nearby. We all got ubers to our respective homes.
I was worried it was going to result in disciplinary meetings because i got aggressive, but one of my managers came up to me a week or 2 later and told me he heard what happened and thanked me and shook my hand. Hes knows one of the girls who were being harrassed since she was young so is quite protective over her.
It sounds like i made this all up now i type it out, but it is true lol
It honestly shouldn't sound made up to anyone who has actually been in the club scene at all for any period of time. A lot of crazy and unsavory shit goes down in bars and clubs.
...but to the category of redditor who hasn't seen grass or breathed fresh air in the past decade then yeah it might seem made up lol.
ERRM AKSHULLY I spent 2 hours browsing OPs posts and he never mentioned anythign about working at a job OR going clubbing, so he must be lying. If he truly is a worker/Clubber he'd make seventy posts about it with at least 200 upvotes each.
So, as you can see my epic Reddit detective work has saved you from believing in anything happening ever to anyone for any reason other than clout.
I (female) had a male colleague slap my ass at a work outing. He was drunk, grabbed my hand and pulled me to the dance floor, spun me around and slapped my ass. I ran off and told one of my female colleagues and a few of us left immediately. Word got out and when we got back to work on Monday my VP and senior manager called me into a meeting to discuss what happened. No disciplinary action was taken against my male colleague and he ended up getting promoted shortly after. That place was toxic af.
I had a colleague openly discuss my arse with me. I’d lost weight and he thought he’d point out that my jeans weren’t as tight and therefore my arse didn’t look as juicy. Ummm, okay.
I don’t have any gold, but I want to take a moment to say I agree with you; things do not ever happen. to anyone. ever. I’m actually disgusted by people who tell me things because they’re always lying.
Had a friend (knew her from before this incident) walk up in a random parking lot, grab my arm and whisper “pretend we’re dating”. I glanced around and noticed a creepy looking dude following her. We walked into a store together acting like we had meant to meet there and waited until the guy left. Apparently he’d been following her around for a while and kept asking if she was with anyone; she’d told him she was meeting her bf soon but didn’t see anyone she recognized until I showed up. Never understand guys that pester women; if they’re interested they’ll make sure you know.
Guys who "pester" women are not looking for a date. They're getting off on scaring someone, and having power over someone. Probably because they have no power and no confidence and pick on someone to make themselves feel stronger. Weakest thing anyone can do.
I didn’t realize that enjoying the power of scaring me was the motive behind many of the catcalling/pestering/obsessive behaviors I’d experienced throughout my life. It was scary enough to feel like pursued prey. But turns out, it’s even more fuckin terrifying.
I suppose I was naive to think only a small percentage of people are actual sadists that think this way. Nope, I was wrong about that too lol.
There are far more people in my country that brush their teeth than murder people, but i cant remember the last time i heard a story about someone brushing their teeth.
Theres a definite confirmation bias here, which is perfectly natural.
You likely wont remember the time a guy let you go first, but you will remember the time a guy scared you. Its the way our brains are wired for good reason, to protect you from reoccurrences of bad stuff.
The guys that do this are scum and dont represent the majority.
That being said, it would be silly to pretend that they dont exist because they absolutely do.
I would agree with you if not for the fact that 1 in 5 women are raped at some point in their life in the U.S. 43% of all women experience some form of sexual violence in their lifetime.
Soooo....it's not really uncommon for a large number of women to have many examples like this or for plenty of men to act this way. Not really a good comparison to murder....
Im a man who has been the victim of childhood sexual abuse at the hand of an authoritative figure.
The guy has never been convicted but there have been multiple allegations about him. I know they are true because i am a victim. He ruined the lives of so many children.
This was one man, but was such an evil man that he alone caused unimaginable suffering to many.
The sort of people who commit sexual offences rarely only act once. It is how they behave. The figures may indicate that 1/5 men are rapists if you look at it as a 1/1 ratio, but that is not the case.
The majority of harm is caused by a small subset of people.
A wise man once told me that we are one person but also a thousand people— which is to say that we know ourselves as who we are but are a different person in the eyes of everyone else we meet.
Reddit sees me as an incel with awful comedic timing and in desperate need of touching grass.
But my family sees me as an incel with awful comedic timing and in desperate need of touching grass.
Naw man you are a good one. That's like some girl code level shit. You recognized they were uncomfortable and sent them to the women in the group as well as cut off the guys being creepy.
When I was a teenager I pretended to be a random woman’s boyfriend at a bus stop because some insane homeless man was relentlessly harassing her. Bad neighborhood late at night no one around. Basically got in a shouting match with him told him to fuck off a lot (luckily had a friends dog with me that was intimidating) then waited with her until the bus came while he stared at us from across the street haha.
Oh, I've been that girl! Some much older creep was trying to grind on me at a club, and this absolute perfect "white knight" shows up in between us and grinds on the guy instead, so I had a chance to escape.
Really made a scary situation into something hilarious in hindsight.
Had a similar situation happen at a bar top. Sitting with a girl that is a friend. Wife sitting next to me. Guy was hitting on my friend horribly. She just nudged me and said go with it. I said ok. She told the dude we fraternal twins and the guy backed off. It has been a running joke for 15 years now. She always introduces me as her twin when we meet new people hanging out. I’m 6’4” she is 5’2”. Always find funny.
recently at a rave (this kind of thing happens less at those, but still happens I guess), I was with my gf, and there were these 2 younger girls (early 20s) dancing near us almost the whole night. Anyways, some guy who clearly took way too much of whatever he took, was constantly getting in their personal space, they'd back up, he'd wander off and then come back after a few minutes. I saw the girls were getting uncomfortable because he didn't understand they weren't interested, so I approached them and told them if they don't know what to do, come over and dance or talk with my gf and me until the guy goes away...they came to us in a few minutes and the guy disappeared. They were probably reassurred because I wasn't a lone guy too, but had my gf with me.
Idk, I don't see what you or I did as "white knighting", anyone who has a sister would probably be aware what can happen and glad there was someone able to offer some help.
Great job! I was at a concert once and this older dude had clearly had too much to drink and was constantly bothering this young woman in front of me. He didn't seem dangerous, just annoying and she clearly wasn't having it. So I eventually step forward and say "hey man, it doesn't look like she wants to talk to you". The young woman then replies "that's my dad". I felt like an idiot. But then an older woman standing next to her, that I didn't notice before, taps me on the arm and mouths "thank you!". It was the girls mom and she was happy someone was looking out for her. :D
Yep, have done something similar when waiting for my gf to arrive at a bar. I was sitting at a bar, so a little elevated. Noticed two girls on the dancefloor that looked uncomfortable.
Locked eyes and had a 'moment' with one and got the message. I decided to walk up pretending to know them and that I was looking for them from the bar. I hung around for a while had a chat and excused myself.
Least it defused that situation for them. People can be horrible.
I was stood up once when I was supposed to meet a guy at a bar for a first date (eh, it happens), but this other guy at the bar found out that I was there alone and so he wouldn't let me be, all like, "Well, what happens next? 😏" I kept telling him that I just wanted to sit there and enjoy my drink alone, but he wouldn't let up.
A little earlier, anothet man had walk into the bar wearing a cowboy hat, and while that's not normally my thing, he stood out to me and he seemed like a decent-looking guy. He was standing at one of the high tables by the bar, so in an act of desperation, I turned to him and smiled and said, "There you are! I was waiting for you!"
He looked over my shoulder at the other guy and, thank goodness, he was able to put two and two together and he said, "Sorry I'm late!" as he made room for me at his table. We ended up having a great time together and I was very grateful for him rescuing me.
I was way younger and hotter then than I am now, lol, so I would never count on that working again. It was unreal! Like something out of a movie. I'll never forget it.
I understand. I think that, as long as youre aware and are actively trying to work on those things to change for the better then youre not as terrible as you think. Keep it up bro!
Man the pushback against people being "white knights" I feel like does not come from a place of honesty
Yeah we've all seen the guy being overprotective of a girl to the point of diminishing her agency or outright because he's masking predation, or just being a bit autistic, but the fact that you have to reflexively say you aren't a white knight because you didnt like two girls getting harassed makes me feel bitter
They call leftists snowflakes but anyone who gets offended when you say "yeah girls get harassed more than men do" or replies with "but what about men" as if it's a zero sum game or a fuckin competition really has diminished what I saw as a positive direction society was moving in before we became the Nation of MAGA
Couldn’t have put it better myself. Go through the comments, and dudes are fucking weird about this story.
I think it hits those guys weird for a few reasons.
they are desperately single and any story about women being protected makes them feel like we’re talking about them…the single guy…as being the thing that is the threat.
Jealousy. They are simply jealous of the situation and react by trying to tear down the OP.
Agreed. I still find it hard to be my wife tolerates me.
That being said, we can all be better men by looking out for shitty men and getting other way.😤
Bro. 🤦🏻♂️ You’re completely missing the point. Women have their heads on a swivel in ways that men are not aware of. If you tune in for just a moment, there are women that sometimes need assistance… even if it’s just acknowledging they’re in trouble, and helping them in a way that is not confrontational and allows them the freedom of choice. Kind of a lot…but…CP recognized that she was in trouble because of the angle of the stage, her dress and the cameras who are looking for it.
By just standing in their way, he did so, so much. For her and for US men a as good example to follow. You don’t have to fight people to protect the vulnerable, and as strong and wonderful as all the women are, they always vulnerable in this society. Not a knock on women, just a knock on men…
“White knight” is, IMO, trying to fight people to defend women… which is toxic and makes things worse.
I’m not trying to fight anyone, and if you spend some time reading the comments, there are a bunch of women who have had similar experiences and were glad there was a reasonable dude nearby that was willing to help in a way that didn’t cause an huge scene.
The fact that you’re more focus on me than the people assaulting women is telling..
A White Knight is a guy that gets off on the praise for helping women in any way. It doesn't have to be a physical fight.
You're clearly someone that likes to feel good about "being there" for women in distress.
It's one thing to act on it when it does happen and do your civic/moral duty. It's something else entirely when you write out paragraphs on Reddit about a very brief encounter you had a night club and you add into your story how thankful the woman was you were there and how great she thought you were.
Either way, I think I just don't like you. You seemed a little too focused on yourself in the situation you described and are apparently a bit of an attention seeker
You seem like someone who makes assumptions pretty easily. I worked as a makeup artist for many years. It was 2nd nature when working on location for guys to block the view of our models while facing the opposite direction.
I mean, I don’t have sound on, so I could be missing something. All I see is the title saying it was a gentlemanly thing to do, and the text on the video saying that’s how a real man acts. Nothing too hyperbolic.
Auditoriums yes, stages no. A talk show sound stage has stadium seating so the audience eyeliner is higher than the heads of the host and guest.
You're being intentionally obtuse with this. Let me use small words, maybe you'll catch on
Girl sitting in chair on high stage. Audience sitting in chairs low on ground. Girl not want audience to see her underwear. Girl ask another guest to block view.
I hate that she’s that age where creepy ass people feel that it’s necessary to comment on her appearance.
I hate that girls like her who break into the industry at a young age have to deal being sexualized at very young age. It never dawned on me how toxic it was for Natalie Portman after she did the professional until I read a article about how people would call in to shows and comment on her appearance and how a radio station counted down to her 18th birthday when she would be “legal”. Gross.
I hate that just because she is growing up people feel the need to criticize her growing maturity, and get mad for doing the things we all did at her age just because she is famous. Just like they did to Miley after that MTV performance.
Natalie Portman said that her first fan mail she received after The Professional was a porn dream from a man, and that this experience shaped definitely how she presented and interacted with the world. She took many more historical roles in general and any role that allowed her to be more serious, closed off, clothed, and evoked eeriness. It's heartbreaking to think this was the decisive moment for her career decisions.
Jesus Christ. The Professional came out in 1994, Portman was born in 1981, so she was 13 at the most, playing a 12 year old character. It's her very first credited role in IMDb.
Obviously everybody knows this shit happens to girls way younger than that, but the guy above you just said she was 21 because the person above seemed to believe she was still like 14 or something. You haven't fallen out of the tree yet.
That isn't an article it's a press release by the person claiming bullying.
Not saying she's wrong, but isn't an independent source with facts, it's 'i think they're doing this to me...' piece that shouldn't be near an independent news site
Well, it seems to be wrong for her, as she did not want to stand up without help from other persons. If i wear my clothes i do not need help because of them. Other ones would just stand up from sitting, regardless of dress.
If we are to assume that the Pratt screen was necessary for her to stand up without being exposed, then I think it’s fair to say that she wasn’t quite dressed appropriately for the occasion.
Mate, it’s a stage. There is two ways for people to see someone on a stage and having the stage raised is the cheaper and most common for small rooms. I agree that there is nothing wrong with her clothes but to blame it on someone else for her to be in that specific situation is a stupid one.
Even sitting at a cafe table with mates is risky in a short skirt, let alone standing and sitting in front of a crowd. Not blaming her for not wanting to flash her crotch, good on her and Pratt for doing this, but boo on you for blaming others for a situation she created.
Show her the credit she is due in accepting she made a conscious choice in regards to what she wore and having been on several press tours already and also had a way around it.
I wore a thong to a presentation once, it was see through. Thankfully I was at the back of the audience and it was online. The meeting chair was a man.
Idk if it was ‘dignified enough to realize it’ as much as ‘overly sexualized from childhood and now extremely aware of creeps sexualizing her at all times’
Unless she had no panties on, who cares if she flashed them. I see people all the time with their pants out. She has revealed a lot more in other outfits
So.......she wasn't dressed fine. It's very common to be on an elevated stage when you go to an event. And the way they seated her seems very normal.
Of course, it's always nice to help a person in need.
But I dont really feel like I should feel bad for an adult who feels uncomfortable because of their own clothing choices.
Wear whatever you want, as long as you're ok with the consequences. Of course, there might be exceptions.
Yeah, have to agree with this one. It's nowhere close to "victim blaming" or anything like that. Crazy people are getting downvoted for saying this.
Millie probably had an "oops, I didn't think this through" moment which we all have, no big deal, but choosing to wear something else would completely prevent any oopsies from happening in the first place. Don't wear revealing clothes if you don't want to accidentally end up flashing people. It's not an unreasonable take at all.
There is really no way talking sense into those people. Even though I personally think you are in the right, the camps are so divided that it is unlikely we will find common ground here.
The moment you challenge any womans choice nowadays, you are an anti-feminist and a bigot. This is our new reality, better to just get used to it.
Living life as a celebrity and having to account for paparazzi must suck so much, she probably didn't even consider it till she was up there and was like "Ah fuck sake, the moment I try get up paparazzi will start snapping pictures"
No, nobody should be feeling bad for her, and that was the other posters point. You said I don’t think I should have to feel bad, she said “who is asking you to feel bad?” … because nobody is. Pratt did a decent thing, but nobody is like UGH! Poor girl!
It’s not that deep or hard to understand. Stop being so sensitive online, it’s weird man.
Because in a lot of posts like these, people express sympathy for the actresses. And that's what sympathy is, feeling bad for someone else's misfortune. Just because you dont feel it, doesnt mean others dont. And I dont what you think is "weird" or not.
Of course, it's always nice to help a person in need.
But
So no, you don't actually want to help people in need. You immediately contradicted your claim.
I dont really feel like I should feel bad
Nobody said that you should.
Also, this is a post praising a guy for being a gentleman and you decide to take the time to shit on the lady? Why comment at all at that point. People like you are so insufferably pathetic.
A "but" does not cancel out the previous statement. Everything in life is not all or nothing. It's called nuance.
I am not "shitting" on anyone. As far as I know she is a great person. It just doesnt seem like to me that her dress was "just fine", even by her own standards because she was also uncomfortable. And I pointed that out. That's not "shitting" on someone. Talking about behaviors/choices and talking about people are different things. It's, again, called nuance.
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u/CuddlyWuddly0 Mar 05 '25
She was dressed just fine, it was the chair and the position they had her sitting in, up higher than the audience.
And she was dignified enough to realize it