If they had to get 2 salaries they simply wouldn't get hired. They can only really do 1 persons worth of work at a time. It sucks but thats the way it goes.
If they had to get 2 salaries they simply wouldn't get hired.
Aka, the fuck people with disability method of thinking.
1 persons worth of work
But they're not. They're 2 people. Who are... Conjoined. That's what it means.
It sucks but thats the way it goes.
... That's just how you think about it.
You're also just discovering the hardship people with disability face and how often they accept unfair conditions because of the lack of opportunity they face, the same happens for many vulnerable people. Have you ever wondered why illegal Mexicans do insanely hard labour for unfair pay?
Because they have no other choice in an exploitative system.
You're so close to experience an emancipation moment. I think that is fascinating.
Yeah, no shit, they're 2 people, but they're teachers in the US
If they had to be paid 2 salaries, no district in the country would hire them. They can only teach 1 class. With all the will and accommodations in the world, they could only teach 1 class still.
They can still only really do 1 persons worth of work. They jointly control 1 body. Even if they did an office job, they could still only write 1 report at a time. Im sure there are some jobs that they could do 2 peoples.
I will never be able to work some jobs because I'm disabled, sad to say, but it's true. It would nice if they did get 2 salaries but in reality its unlikely unless they find a job that could do it.
But that's wrong. They're doing two people's work. They're both working.
That's two people. Two jobs. Two pays.
Unless one is having a nap during work hours. Or playing gameboy.
Does the other person, have free time? No.
They're both working.
I will never be able to work some jobs because I'm disabled
And that goes for them, however,
If you're suggesting, that due to your ableness, you should be allowed to be paid half as much as someone else.
I don't agree. That's exploitative.
What you're arguing for, that if someone who is disabled is only half as capable, they should only get half the pay, is horrifying in any reasonable society.
What you're arguing for, that if someone who is disabled is only half as capable, they should only get half the pay,
I mean, if they're only half as capable (I'm not making that argument, you are) they probably shouldn't even be hired. The students deserve a quality education. I think they're 100% capable, but that doesn't mean they should get 200% pay for doing 100% of the job. The fact of the matter is they are doing the job of one person, so they get the pay of 1 person. They knew this going in. It wasn't a surprise to them after graduation to learn that they wouldn't be paid for two people to teach one class. There are jobs that they could have been hired that would earn them pay for 2 people, but they chose one that is only suited for the pay of one person.
I mean, if they're only half as capable (I'm not making that argument, you are)
No, I'm not.
I'm saying they're fully capable. They're fully doing two jobs. They're two people, both working.
You're the one, saying they're doing one job. Two people, sharing one job, so they get paid half each.
Would you apply that logic to anyone else? I hope not. The hours aren't half and half are they?
They knew this going in
Ah, exploitation is ok if you opt in! I'll let the indentured servants in the middle east know!
It wasn't a surprise to them
Yeah I imagine there is a lot of shit they aren't surprised by. I wouldn't extend that to mean it's good.
There are jobs that they could have been hired that would earn them pay for 2 people, but they chose one that is only suited for the pay of one person.
... This is so dystopian. What other person do you apply that logic to?
Oh you shouldn't be a teacher, you're more suited to a supermarket role, so it's ok to pay half?
“How we should” and “how we do” are 2 different conversations.
Them getting a single salary is fair to all the other teachers who are a single teacher doing the job of a single teacher. Government disability should cover the rest essentially as unemployment, but it likely does not.
You can “wow” all you want. That’s the society we live in.
If Lisa shows up to work the cash register, but insists on having her emotional support friend Mark there, it doesn’t matter if Mark is also working the register. Nobody is going to pay them 2 wages.
The fact that it’s a disability should be dealt with by the government, not the business.
You can call me an asshole all you want for pointing out the obvious that other teachers would take issue with them getting 2x the salary to do the job of 1 person.
Their work offered them a job and they accepted. They weren't forced to accept the job offer. How is that exploitation? Surely you're not saying they can't quit?
You're saying the school, and school district, and tax payers should be forced to pay them twice the salary, when the position they applied for is one teaching position. There isn't a reasonable accommodation for them to teach two different classes, if they want to teach in person. Why should the school be forced to offer 2 positions, when they only offer one per class? How is that fair? If they want 2 salaries shouldn't they find a job where that can be reasonably accommodated. There probably are positions even in teaching where that is possible. Are you saying people should be unreasonably accommodated?
A lot of people, and I mean a lot, accept things, which are also exploitative.
If they want to teach, which I assume is the case, they may not be able to, without accepting this exploitation.
Right?
You're saying the school, and school district, and tax payers should be forced to pay them twice the salary
No. No no no.
They should pay them a normal salary.
Both of them. It's TWO people.
How is that fair?
I really don't think, you're idea of fair is healthy. Your version of fair is "disabled? Suck shit then".
I think fair, demands fair pay. And I think fair also demands that when someone has a disability, where possible, they be able to have the same opportunities as others.
Them being conjoined, should not reasonably be a barrier to teaching, that you ask it to be.
They should not have to choose, half pay, to do that. That's a failure of fairness.
I looked it up and they do get two salaries sort of. They get an entire salary and it is split between them but they only work part-time. Whether they work exactly 20 hours or whatever is unknown. Whether or not this has changed over the last 13 years is also not known.
Due to my ableness, sadly, I will never get hired for some jobs. I don't think of it as an injustice its just the reality of my physical situation. There are plenty of jobs that I can basically do the same as anyone else but many that I could not and there are no reasonable accomodations to help. I would never pass an occupational health assessment to work in a hospital for instance, I would like to but I'd be useless in the job.
The last time this was posted it was mentioend that they had opted to only get 1 salary.
Ok, but the jobs you can do, I will demand fair pay when you do them.
And they can surely teach.
they had opted to only get 1 salary.
From what I read it's something they accepted but wanted to negotiate later.
Which is how a lot of exploitation works. Just because someone agrees to less doesn't mean it's fair. That's not an issue limited to disability either.
FFS you're on here attacking people like they're the school superintendent who wrote those girls' employment contract. They're pointing out the reality of government bureaucracy, not cheerleading for disabled folk to get the shaft.
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u/Initiatedspoon 1d ago
If they had to get 2 salaries they simply wouldn't get hired. They can only really do 1 persons worth of work at a time. It sucks but thats the way it goes.