r/WallStreetbetsELITE • u/Excellent_Copy4646 • 18h ago
Shitpost If Kamala harris won the election,Amercians would be living in a utopia now.
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u/IdioticPrototype 15h ago
Utopia is hyperbolic af, but I'd settle for some goddamn sanity.
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u/oakinmypants 12h ago
It’s not a utopia without universal healthcare and universal pre k.
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u/IdioticPrototype 12h ago
Exactly what a filthy commiesocialiast would say!
Let me guess, you probably want to ensure that those disgusting little pre-K crotch goblins don't starve, too??
Edit: And get 15 minute breaks every 4 hours while they work in the coal mines?
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u/totpot 6h ago
Before the election, I was looking at what fortune tellers and astrologers were saying (for fun). One thing that kept coming up was the prediction that a Kamala win would usher in a new golden age whereas a Trump win would usher in a devastating recession, lead to the end of the United States, and that he would start WWIII. What was interesting was that some of these guys that were saying this were pro Trump.
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u/EntrepreneurFunny469 15h ago
Utopia? No. Better? Yes.
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u/Spiritual-Matters 13h ago
FOX News and alt right channels would be blasting non-stop criticisms and fake articles claiming people are only in her cabinet because of DEI and everything is woke (when it’s not). And every decision they make is woke and against you because George Soros and Obama said so.
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u/Responsible_Lawyer_3 13h ago
So basically the same thing theyre doing now?
Isnt it jobidens fault that everyone hates tesla?
Isnt the economy which begun to tank RIGHT AFTER CHUMP INAUGURATED jobidens fault?
you know like when babies just cry for attention? There is this thing where sometimes you just have to ignore them
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u/Spiritual-Matters 12h ago
I’m saying things would be better but people would still be hating on everything and there’d be less appreciation without understanding just how about Trump is.
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u/LayWhere 9h ago
That's when you know things are good, the right has to engineer dissent because it doesn't exist in reality
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u/andherBilla 12h ago
Better? No. Just less worse than Trump.
Her economic policy wasn't anything to write home about either.
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u/AlarmedGibbon 15h ago
Interestingly, Republicans would actually be complaining far more under a Harris continuation of Biden's excellent stock market and steady economic growth than they are now even as the current Republican administration collapses both. Partisan Derangement Syndrome, you might call it.
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u/areyoume29 10h ago
I hope america never forgets the first 100 days of trump and never elected a president for a second non consecutive term. Grover Cleveland crashed the stock market, leading the United States into a depression, Trump is on his way. Once Trump finishes his term, we need to make it a law that a president can only serve two consecutive terms. If you win one election and lose a second, you are ineligible to run again.
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u/vtsandtrooper 15h ago
We’d be living our lives without constant fear that the next tweet will ruin us, yes. Utopia? I dunno its childish to think any government can provide a perfect world when humans are absolutely imperfect beings
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u/zyx1989 17h ago
Nah, I don't think so, but it's certainly gonna be better than this nonsense
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u/NYGiants181 15h ago
Born in Oakland, California, Harris graduated from Howard University and the University of California, Hastings College of the Law. She began her law career in the office of the district attorney of Alameda County. Harris was recruited to the San Francisco District Attorney's Office and later to the office of the city attorney of San Francisco. She was elected district attorney of San Francisco in 2003 and attorney general of California in 2010, and reelected as attorney general in 2014.
Harris was the junior U.S. senator from California from 2017 to 2021 after winning the 2016 Senate election.
Imagine calling this UNQUALIFIED.
Fucking MORONS.
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u/truthputer 12h ago
She was a shit candidate. She is a former cop who moved to the right - and you are confused why the left was reluctant to support her?
Biden had a 37% approval rating when she ran on his platform. When asked what she would do differently she didn't understand the question. She got 4% of the vote in her last primary. The ideas that she ran on were terrible, she was unpopular and barely anyone came out to vote for her.
"I'm a woman and I'm not trump" is not a political platform, despite what Democrats are trying to tell you.
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u/fuckmarjorietgreene 12h ago
Trump is the shittiest candidate ever in the history of the universe. There could be billions or trillions of other civilized alien life across billions of years, and I'd still bet everything I have that Trump takes the taco as shittiest ever in the entire universe.
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u/NYGiants181 12h ago
You missed my entire point.
They said she was UNQUALIFIED.
If that is unqualified to be President, can you tell me what is?
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u/kingSOAMAZED 12h ago
if Biden hadn’t been seen a potato and they had real primaries she wouldn’t have been close to be elected at the democrat nominee
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u/NYGiants181 11h ago edited 10h ago
Again. Not an answer.
They said she was UNQUALIFIED.
I'm not arguing a good vs bad candidate. The argument was that she was not qualified to be President.
Tell me what IS qualified compared to her resume if not her.
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u/truthputer 5h ago
Your reaction is a microcosm for why the Democrats lost.
Why are you listening to anything republicans say? WE ALL KNOW that it's a LIE to say that she's "unqualified." Republicans - and trump - lie all the time. It's what they do. Why are you still listening to them? Why are you still attempting to engage with them in good faith?
"Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience."
Nobody who believes the republican lies are listening to you and they never cared anyway because their own candidate is incredibly unqualified. They don't care about qualifications. You are not refuting anybody. And for anyone who IS still listening to you - you just wasted their attention by saying the obvious.
This is the exact same trap that Harris fell into, the lies cost barely any energy to spread. But she then spent so much time on the defensive, so much time saying "I'm not trump" that she forgot to say what SHE STOOD FOR.
I literally can't name a single policy Harris had that would have been different from Biden. I mean, we had Brat Summer, still wants to bomb children in Gaza, hugged Dick Cheney on stage, owns a gun.... that's about it - and none of those have broad appeal with the left.
Democrat Challenge: Promote your candidate WITHOUT making it all about trump. <Difficulty level: impossible.>
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u/After-Ad9889 7h ago
Crazy that you're being downvoted. I also don't remember people saying she wasn't qualified
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u/reyntime 8h ago
Yet people close fucking Trump over her. You can't seriously say that Trump is the better candidate.
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u/Eggplant-Alive 6h ago
Those are good points.
The only way she could have been a less qualified candidate is if she was a multiple convicted felon who had bankrupted casinos, promised to be a dictator on day one, amplified social media lies as facts, offered up tariffs as a magic bullet to fix an economy that wasn't broken, and shit all over every single world leader not named Vladimir Putin for 8 straight months leading up to election night.
Would have been hilarious if she made comments about wanting to have sex with her children, grab boys by their penises, and that asylum seekers were actually people that were from insane asylums.
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u/ASOTBABY 15h ago
Or if the bullet didn't miss
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u/Responsible_Lawyer_3 13h ago
All those “assasination attempts” were orchestrated by the oompa-loompa team.
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u/BUTTES_AND_DONGUES 11h ago
Uhh I mean no.
If Kamala won the election you’d still have her fighting against a GOP-led senate and house, and accomplishing effectively nothing while these inbred fucks continue to poison America against itself.
But, that GOP-led senate and house would also not get anything through.
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u/peterinjapan 7h ago
There’d be negativity about her online from trolls, but yes, we would ALL be better off
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u/SnoSlider 12h ago
Yes, they would, but they’d (Faux viewers) would be convinced that they’re miserable.
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u/The_Environment116 10h ago
Im not sure, kinda seems like America needs to go through it now, in order to get back on track. This was always a powder keg
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u/Potato2266 10h ago
I think utopia is an exaggeration but since we are currently living in hell, I guess a boring and calm Washington looks heavenly right now. We ain’t greedy at all.
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u/Scared-Mine1506 9h ago
I'm assuming this is copypasta/bait because no thinking person believes vote for x=utopia.
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u/Unleashed-9160 8h ago
Stop it.....lol. While it would certainly be better than this shit show, the democrats also have massive issues. Fuck politicians...
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u/WinstonEagleson 8h ago
Too late to what could have been. Stand up and let your voices be heard and impeach this president before it's too late!
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u/sendintheotherclowns 8h ago
You reap what you sow, good luck getting through the rest of this term
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u/gamebloxs 7h ago
it would be more normalcy but the systemic problems of overspending would still be at play in the US to probably the same degree they have been currently with trump. Kamala would be better but not perfect
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u/Educational-Ad-7278 6h ago
No just no. This is 1933 Germany delusional. Look up who would have „ruled“ Germany if not for the man from Austria. A better government? Most certainly. But still potential for enough crap? Absolutely.
Granted…she would be by faaaar the lesser evil. But utopia? No. Just no.
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u/Fantastic_East4217 13h ago
It wouldn’t be a utopia, but itd be ran by competent, educated professionals.
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u/kingSOAMAZED 12h ago
just say it how it is she wouldn’t have put tariffs that is plaguing us right now but from her campaign she looked like the absolute worse democrat candidate that has ever stepped forward
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u/Kirby_The_Dog 17h ago
Why do people continue to think if only Democrats were elected everything would be a "utopia". Dems have had single party rule here in California my entire adult life, we are FAR from a utopia.
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u/Opening-Emphasis8400 15h ago
You also have one of the largest economies in the world.
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u/No-Account9822 14h ago
Were* they have the busiest port in the US and will be heavily impacted by the tariffs when shipping drops.
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u/LuckyOneAway 15h ago
Have you lived in a red state? Just to see if you can compare apples to apples.
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u/sir_clifford_clavin 15h ago
What's your criteria? I'm in Seattle, but have never really been to California. It looks amazing.
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u/kootenaypow 15h ago
California is one of the most desirable places on the planet. It is Utopia compared to the swamp states and those shit hole countries.
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u/liverandonions1 13h ago
Someone who is black already was president. Maybe Kamala Harris was just a shitty candidate.
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u/FarAd2245 14h ago
I'm having a tough time understanding if this was meant as sarcasm / satire, or a real position
If the former, I don't think even the most die hard liberals thought we would be 'in utopia.' It would have been more of the same, probably small incremental economic gains, boring news cycles, deadlocked house, etc.
Frankly, I know things have been 'better', but as 33M the past couple years have been some of the best of my life, financially. I know it is anecdotal, but personally I thought things were pretty great under Biden. My numbers were going up..
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u/WhiteHornedStar 12h ago edited 12h ago
Lmao I wouldn't go so far. But I guess anything looks like an utopia when compared to hell.
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u/Vegetaman916 12h ago
You mean, it would be a utopia after the survivors of the nuclear war with Russia rebuild civilization?
Yes, it probably would be.
I voted for Harris, btw. But I know what that would have meant for Russia, and Putin knew it too. Obviously, if he is going to lose and die anyway, he will burn the world for all of us, but I'm sure he doesn't want that, lol. So, getting the circus peanet at least puts that inevitable war off a few years.
I would have rather had the fire.
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u/iwontbiteunless 12h ago
Nah we’d still be doing the slow circling the drain instead of being flushed down it
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u/Odd_Hair3829 12h ago
George w bush was a horror show for the economy as well - I don’t understand how the Republican Party has a leg to stand on with voters but they are doing great. Democrats must truly suck at the whole please vote for me thing. Just unreal.
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u/Excellent_Copy4646 11h ago
To be fair 911 happen under george bush, the maket will tank regardless who was in charge then. But this time, it was entirely self made. Like u can put a monkey in charge, that dosnet have a clue and dosent do anything and the market still wouldnt have tank like it did now.
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u/Odd_Hair3829 11h ago
Read against all enemies by Richard Clarke. 9/11 wasn’t an act of god it was a failure of the bush admin to protect the country
But I was talking about the Great Recession actually
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u/Apprehensive_Map64 12h ago
No it would be chaos as well with all the ruckus the Republicans would be making about having a woman as president. Not anywhere near the same level but they would all be pretending that we are where we are now despite reality being completely different
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u/Individual-Dot-9605 10h ago
Wonderful president we were not allowed to have due to orange baron harkonnen and Joe Rogan/spotify.
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u/Witty-Bear1120 9h ago
Even Ted Cruz admitted that if Trump keeps this tariff stuff up, democrats will win the midterms in a landslide and start impeachment proceedings in hyperdrive.
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u/WaltEnterprises 9h ago
They all wanted Trump to win because US stock valuations were 120% overvalued and it wasn't sustainable. Your vote doesn't mean anything in the US so you might as well stop getting gray hairs over theater.
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u/IndianaGunner 9h ago
Yeah but just like kids, until they know what true pain is they will keep trying to stick their tongues in wall sockets.
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u/VorpalBlade- 7h ago
He inherited 100s of millions from His evil father but he would have been richer if he just let it sit in conservative investments. He’s so greedy and so stupid he squandered most of his inherited fortune. In fact he probably still owes big money to - you guessed it - Russian oligarchs. Because no other banks on earth would lend him money, because he’s a welsher. He never pays back his debts. But yeah, that’s the guy to elect as President. Twice. Oh and he already failed at The job once.
I’ll never forgive the absolute shit for brains morons that did this to us. And an especially big fuck you to my FIL. Fuck you you fat arrogant over privileged hypocritical cowardly ignorant selfish shit fuckers
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u/007baldy 7h ago
If you'd made better trading decisions you'd be richer than Warren Buffet but here we are.
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u/Eastern-Cantaloupe-7 3h ago
Goal is too take interest rates down as an enormous amount of debt needs to be refinanced soon. That has succeeded but at a high price as the US has shown it’s an unreliable partner
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u/arrius01 14h ago
The USA already had a black president maybe you didn't follow the news for 8 years. Harris was a dumpster fire and the Dems have nobody to blame but themselves.
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u/Glad_Pomegranate_657 10h ago
Ok… even the Canadian can chirp in here. It may very well have been a utopia at this present time… but… in the long run… isn’t in obvious that things were supper-overinflated. Did you really want to keep the fictitious gravy train going until an even harder crash. I hate the tariffs.. I hate the current administration… but to think that the alternative was better is a pipe dream
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u/IronSavage3 17h ago
It’s the people who voted against the party that presided over 18 consecutive months of inflation outpacing wages who are the REAL problem! /s
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u/kingOofgames 16h ago edited 15h ago
Oh why did we have 18 months of inflation outpacing wages. It’s a real mystery. Biden got elected, and we suddenly had all that inflation. Before that everything was great.
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u/DamnTheDan 14h ago
The Libs are fired up over this inevitable pullback (yes, sped up by these tariffs, but it was due anyway)
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u/StationFar6396 14h ago
If you're a US citizen it doesn't matter if you voted for Trump or not, he is your responsibility.
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u/MilitantlyWokePatrio 16h ago
Yep. Pretty much. Things would be much better, and best of all? We would have people who are at least trying to fix our problems. And not trying to rape the middle class, well off, and poor, with regressive taxes.
But nonetheless, the future we can imagine that we would be experiencing, can still come to pass, but even better. We just need to work at it daily, or to the extent we can, consistently, over time. And we build to that place.
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u/headlessBleu 15h ago edited 14h ago
for sure not a utopia but this week would never happen and that already make her a better choice
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u/pepe_acct 12h ago
To be fair Joe Biden is sleeping and the market is booming. Fact of the matter is we was in a really good position I think anyone reasonable person as president can make market boom
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u/kingSOAMAZED 12h ago
let’s be transparent she was the worse democrat candidate ever, so bad that it got Trump re-elected
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u/write_lift_camp 10h ago
It wasn’t between Trump and Kamala, it was between Trump and Haley…and DeSantis…and like a half dozen other qualified adults that wouldn’t have done any of this. But primary voting republicans wanted Trump. They wanted him after he got caught with his pants down in March 2020. They wanted him after he lost his mind in the final 11 weeks of his first term. They wanted him after the attack on the capitol and attempted a coup.
If there is a problem in this country, it lies with them.
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u/doctornursealexis 9h ago
We’ve been overdue for a market correction for A WHILE. You’re delusional.
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u/VibeCheckerz 9h ago
You could have a terminally ill vegetable man that does nothing and it would’ve been better
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u/Accomplished_War7152 8h ago
I mean the biggest difference would be zero new tarrifs, the world wouldn't consider the United States a joke, or a security risk. Kamala wouldn't be freely handing over American soft power to China.
Damn, I think we would be in the Utopia that is Biden 2.0 America.
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u/lowriter2 7h ago
When we were manufacturing stuff a single person of a family working could afford a car, a house, two kids, and a stay at home wife. 60% of every dollar ever created happened since 2008. That money goes into inflating real estate and stocks. 10% of people own 80% of the stock market, the next 40% of people own 13%. We have the highest budget deficit ever the last 4 years and highest amount spent on interest payment over 1 trillion. I don’t agree with tariffs u less used a way to gain leverage and even the playing field. China subsidizes industries, has slave labor, currency manipulation, forced tech transfer, a censored internet, is the number one producer of fentanyl, knockoffs, are openly hostile to us, want to take Taiwan… and they get treated like a developing country.
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u/like_shae_buttah 6h ago
Americans voted for Obama twice - her being black want the issue. Her being a woman was a massive issue, as well as the fact she was appointed and not elected in primaries. That pissed a lot of people off. Plus she was like the worst performer in the 2020 democratic primaries. She’s a horrible candidate for a multitude of reasons.
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u/NoAlgae8942 18h ago
She was going to win.... until she bent the knee to Liz Cheney and said she was gonna have a republican in the cabinet and cried about antisemitism.
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u/Correct-Cat-5308 17h ago
Such a shallow take. She knew she had a lot against her and had to show she is inclusive. She said repeatedly she supports Palestinian statehood. If she said anything more, the Jewish lobby would have buried her. If people turn against her because she doesn't say exactly word for word what they expect to hear, and stay home or even vote for the conman instead... then guess what, they deserve everything that's coming.
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u/NoAlgae8942 15h ago
The Palestine thing is minor... The real issue was liz cheney and Republican in the cabinet... She did really well in the beginning, and then after the debate changed. She had the momentum, focus on the constituents not Republicans.
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 14h ago
One of the reasons I did not vote for her was her supporting Palestinian statehood.
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u/MonitorWhole 12h ago
Imagine voting for Kamala Harris. I can’t imagine an ounce of testosterone left in a male body after casting that vote.
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u/breadexpert69 15h ago
A sandwich would have been better than either of them because all you had to do was leave the economy alone. It was on autopilot since Biden.
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u/robert_d 15h ago
She would not be shipping people off to prisons in el salvador.
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u/stephen6686 13h ago
she would be letting more illegals in, she has one task and could not even do that
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u/HugeDramatic 12h ago
You ever see that cartoon of the fat rich white guy sitting on a mountain of money, another white guy with a handful of cash, and a black/brown guy behind him with nothing?
And the rich guy is pointing to the black guy and saying ‘look out, he’s coming to steal your money!’
You’re the guy in the middle.
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u/diggingbighole 14h ago
Her contribution was a smiling "we're not going back". Talk about bringing a wet lettuce leaf to a nuke fight.
This bullshit is literally her fault, she leveraged her party machine to get the nomination, but a machine politician who tries to media manage, and refuses to do anything unscripted was never going to beat Mr Angry Everywhere.
Literally a black person won the presidency twice, and a woman won the popular vote, so your contention that a black woman president is unelectable is highly questionable.
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u/Doggoonewild 14h ago
True. But on the flip side… I bet against him in the markets and am doing WAY better than any MAGA I know 😂
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u/jamespopcorn_46 13h ago
I'm 100% sure I would've not gotten a margin call this morning, that's for sure.
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u/amcooperus 13h ago
We would not be living in a utopia. No one ever promised that. However it would be a lot better than what we're living in now.
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u/whyamihere2473527 13h ago
If dems also won house & senate then maybe but just replacing trump with Harris would only have a stabilizing effect not really any improvements
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u/Wjldenver 13h ago
Stock Mkt would be better, much less chaos to deal with, but I have no idea what would be going on with our border.
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u/human_bot77 11h ago
Kamala would have been boring. Trump is creating new opportunities for those who like to trade everyday.
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u/amadmongoose 11h ago
So, hot take. It's necessary for Trump to have a chance to completely screw over America so as many MAGA as possible deprogram from the cult. If Kamala won they would still be loyal cultists and domestic terrorists. The sooner Republicans get what they wanted and it destroys everything the better chance Americans will be more serious about who they elect.
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u/Sufficient_Article_1 10h ago
You're delusional. Chlamydia couldn't put a sentence together and nobody likes her. She accomplished NOTHING in her entire political career. Her career is over, thank God.
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u/pickleballz8 10h ago
More like hell. She would have been a terrible president stumijg all over herself
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u/Repulsive_Round_5401 17h ago
I don't know if the markets would have been booming, but she would have been impeached immediately if she had illegally put in place tariffs that destroyed the world economy.
The irony is she had an economics degree, but we went for a con man who failed numerous businesses and declared bankruptcy 6 times.