r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Archer1407 1d ago

Trump is going to launch a trade war against California in the next few days.

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u/pm_me_ur_ParusMajors North Carolina 1d ago

Considering how much agriculture and manufacturing actually come out of California, this would have a substantial impact on the rest of the US. The California gdp is as much as in the top 5 gdp's in the world.

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u/Cisco-NintendoSwitch 1d ago

Right, California could secede and collapse all the red states.

Either way we’re heading to something.

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

Take us with you!

Signed, Colorado

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u/Sudden-Investment 1d ago

In the non realistic fever dream of States seceding I always felt Colorado would get shafted since it struck in the middle of the US.

  • California, Oregon, Washington are fine since they have the Pacific Ocean.
  • Minnesota, Michigan, maybe Wisconsin all share a border with Canada to the North.
  • New York and many of the North East States either border Canada or the Atlantic Ocean.
  • Colorado borders all Deep Red States and New Mexico.

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u/AllRushMixTapes 1d ago

Colorado would be invaded because of the watershed. No way does the U.S. let us leave without a fight.

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u/headbangershappyhour 1d ago

In that case, CA would launch a counterattack into Southern NV/Northern AZ to capture the entire Hoover and Glen Canyon Dam infrastructure and all of the associated water distribution networks. That water is too important for Los Angeles and to bribe the central valley farmers to not revolt.

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u/TheBigWil 1d ago

Basically New Vegas, but without the cool stuff

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u/KasseanaTheGreat Iowa 1d ago

Maybe if Musk decides to double down on insisting it was actually a "Roman" salute it might literally just be New Vegas

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u/Spongebobgolf 1d ago

I was going to say, that sounds like some New Vegas shit right there

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u/Dorgamund 1d ago

It would have to go either way. If CO makes threats to the states downstream of the river, it could very likely drag those other states along.

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u/b34tn1k 1d ago

Three of those red states heavily rely on the Colorado River, maybe we turn off the faucet. I know it's not realistic but still

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u/ragnarokxg 1d ago

Colorado and New Mexico cutting off the water to the Colorado and Rio Grande rivers would hurt Arizona and Texas so bad.

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u/starmartyr Colorado 1d ago

Nevada as well. Las Vegas would be uninhabitable within weeks.

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u/Scott5114 Nevada 1d ago

Nevada depends so heavily on California agriculture that if California is out Nevada kind of has no choice but to go along with it.

Nevada also isn't (that kind of) stupid so I would imagine that you'd get a CO-NV water rights compact in place pretty quickly. NV really doesn't use a whole lot of Colorado River water since most of what we do use can be recycled fairly effectively. Las Vegas's net water usage is tiny for a city of our size.

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u/crankyrhino Texas 1d ago

Have you seen the Rio Grande lately? There's not much water there these days.

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u/bassman1805 1d ago

Yeah, so imagine how much worse it'd be if CO stopped giving a shit about the people downriver.

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u/sundvlsean 1d ago

AZ is a blue state once we deport all the retirees back to the Midwest.

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u/Watchakow 1d ago

Nah the Midwest doesn't want them, send them to Florida.

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u/ragnarokxg 1d ago

New Mexico and Colorado could help California annex Arizona.

Remember New Mexico has the bombs.

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u/yuriaoflondor 1d ago edited 1d ago

Worth pointing out that Wisconsin voted for Trump in 2024. Though it’s long been a swing state. And as a cheesehead myself… please for the love of god get me off Trump’s Wild Ride.

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u/Freshness518 1d ago

I feel like it wouldn't take much to convince Nevada to go as well. I bet Vegas would just follow the money. And if all the money just left, they would follow. A bunch of dirt poor desert ranchers in the north aren't going to hold much sway against the power and influence of billions of entertainment dollars once the direction of Vegas is different than theirs.

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u/sotfggyrdg 1d ago

I wish. I'm a bit skeptical though because there's a ton of California haters here in vegas, even among liberals. Lots of idiots like to blame all of Nevada's problems on California as well as having little brother syndrome to LA.

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 1d ago

Sounds like a great way to quickly educate them on how much better their lives are WITH California.

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u/sotfggyrdg 1d ago

Nevada and education go together like peanut butter and mayo

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u/Drak_is_Right 1d ago

Its hard to undersell just how big of a deal Great Lakes shipping (combined with the Mississippi-Ohio-Missouri) has been for the US. You have a 600 ft. vessels nearly a thousand miles from the sea.

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u/ankhes 1d ago

I think a lot of people don’t truly understand just how massive the Great Lakes are (especially Superior and Michigan) until they see them in person. As someone who was born and raised near the Pacific and now lives less than an hour from Lake Michigan, the latter behaves shockingly similar to the former.

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u/B_Type13X2 21h ago

As the bard sang, "Does anyone know where the love of god goes when the waves turn the minutes into hours?"

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u/B_Type13X2 21h ago

1000ft + actually and have since the 60's

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u/randypupjake California 1d ago

Either they would have to convince Arizona or convince Wyoming or Montana... (and they don't have to take all of it, just enough to be contiguous and form a border with Canada)

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u/thisTexanguy 1d ago

Could Wyoming even resist? There's barely anyone in the state.

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u/sundvlsean 1d ago

AZ is easy. Az would be a blue state if it wasn’t for all the snowbirds.

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u/-Darkslayer 1d ago

I find that hard to believe. We lost AZ by over 5 points in 2024, it wasn’t that close

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u/sundvlsean 1d ago

Dem Gov and both senators picked by AZ voters. Snowbirds and retiree’s and possibly some vote manipulation to get the state to go Trump

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u/Scarecrow_Folk 1d ago

MN, MI and WI have international ports and sea access as well. 

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u/digidi90 1d ago

It's not that bad; you can make a bridge to Old Mexico thru New Mexico with maybe an exit or two to Breaking Bad country.

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u/ROOFisonFIRE_usa 13h ago

It might a battle line, but everything between Colorado and California would fall in line pretty quick. SD, ND,NE, NM, WY, MT, NV, AZ not coming to invade. Those people are fairly reasonable to deal with and have an understanding amongst themselves.

KS, OK, TX... well thats another story...

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u/StygianSavior 23h ago

Colorado also has a ton of military infrastructure - NORAD, USNORTHCOMM, Space Force, etc.

Hard to see Washington DC letting that go without a fight.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

Same. Here in Massachusetts.

The blue states should secede. On our own or in some kind of partnership with Canada (United States of Canadia?). The red states are an anchor around our neck. We need to cut them loose.

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

Couldn't agree more. They've been holding us back for decades.

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u/NecroCannon 1d ago

Even before all of this I decided to move from Mississippi because there’s genuinely no future here, the state refuses to progress to grow and will take two steps back just to make sure it stays that way.

Meanwhile I look at Illinois, where I’m going to, and the Gov is on Trump’s ass and also doing trade negotiations behind Trump’s back around tariffs

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

Good on you for getting out! My personal feelings about Newsom and Pritzker aside, all blue state govs should be following their lead.

And I know lots of leftists will argue "we should be moving TO red states to flip them" but fuck that. Their majority vote that way because they want to stay that way. After this circus of an election I am done trying to make them see the light. If you want to live in a place that actively tries to move forward then you're just going to have to pick up and move to those places.

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u/NecroCannon 1d ago

I’m not out yet but I’m 2-3 months from it!

But it’s exactly how I feel now, and the thing about my town is, it has a whole famous athlete tied to it but with that spot light still barely does anything with it. I can’t even stand by the “remember where you came from and support your home town” stance, there was so much racial bullshit it took me graduating and learning more about the world to see that my area has hardly even fucking moved past segregation. It’s baked into minds here like it was just 20 years ago or some shit.

What kind of educated person wants to settle down where they feel like they’re surrounded by idiots stuck in the past? These states deserve to fall at this point

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

I am very happy for you and those 2-3 months will pass in a flash. I grew up in the South. Fuck that, lol. I want to live in places where people dream of moving forward. Have a great life in your new city!

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

+2 from this household

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 1d ago

We can then just invade, liberate the red states, and make them territories without actual voting power. So we'll have a US again but with an updated constitution and better voters.

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

Liberate them? They vote for the policies that keep them in the stone age, it's what they want. They should just form their own dream coalition where they have God but no education, healthcare and technology and their blue voters can come to our side.

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u/donkeyrocket 1d ago

As someone who lives in a strong blue spot within a deep red state, I depressingly get the sentiment but keep in mind that there are people everywhere that voted for this while others are caught within states with rural red rule.

The Democrat stronghold of Massachusetts that had the strongest Harris vote still saw 36% voting for Trump.

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

Oh, I know, and I feel you. Every single state no matter how "red" or "blue" can't be distilled down to just that. In a world where blue states could actually form their own government, there would likely be a lot of blue voters trapped in red states because moving isn't that easy in reality. And vice versa.

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 1d ago edited 20h ago

Their kids don't deserve that though. Most of their daughters probably won't want to get raped by an older man when they're 14 and married off. This way of life they're so desperately trying to protect is just... deplorable. It cannot be practiced without hurting innocents because being allowed to hurt innocents to feel powerful is the point.

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u/King-Snorky Georgia 1d ago

EVERY STATE IS A PURPLE STATE. The United States as a country is as fucked as it is right now due in large part to our archaic FPTP Electoral College system, which leaves a massive portion of people living in a state that ultimately gives away all its electoral votes to the other candidate.

  • Kamala actually got more votes from people in states she lost than from states she won in 2024. ~52% (~38.9 million) of her ~75 million votes came from so called "red states/districts", making up about 38% of those states' total votes.
  • A third (~26.4 million) of Trump's 77.3 votes came from so-called "blue states/districts", also comprising about 40% of those states total votes.

So, let's take the ridiculous scenario where the States/districts that went to Trump in 2024 all seceded, taking all their current residents and forming a new Confederate States of America v2.0. The election results tell us that around 40% of people in each country, 65 million people in total, would want to move to the other country.

Source: Did the math myself. Nebraska of course would find itself in an interesting East/West Berlin situation in the area surrounding Omaha.

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 20h ago

That's the real issue with any proposed geographic division.

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u/VermillionEclipse 1d ago

Will you take refugees from red states?

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u/whoibehmmm 22h ago

Absolutely. Come on over!

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u/The_Kielbasa_Kid 22h ago

Ever since they lost the War of Northern Agression

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u/DrawThink2526 10h ago

At least since the American Civil War🙄

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u/MissRepresent 1d ago

They keep us poor in red states, so we can't afford to move..wish I could leave

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u/randypupjake California 1d ago

Good news!

You aren't the only ones who can't leave. There are other Americans who can't get passports because of Trump

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u/tamman2000 Maine 1d ago

Secession would be really difficult, with how intertwined the states are, and federal facilities being spread out all over, etc...

I would love to see a coalition of blue states form. The coalition could create agencies independent of the federal government to backfill all the functions that Trump is taking away.

But if states do start to leave. I really hope my blue tinted, but not solid blue state joins

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

Dude check out r/RepublicofNE they are a registered non-profit in your area.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

Well Trump's closing a lot of the federal facilities, so that solves that problem.

I agree that we should chose what to fund ourselves. I want to properly fund our national parks, libraries, museums, and social safety net, but I don't want to pay federal taxes and then pay a second time through the state. That's taxation without representation. We need to withhold our federal taxes and I don't think Trump will take that well - his whole administration is just a tax grab.

Secession seems like the only way to go.

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u/tamman2000 Maine 1d ago

I think the coalition I mentioned is a first step down that road. It's hard to withhold your federal taxes when the federal government is in the banks and the taxes are predominantly taken by withholdings from paychecks. If the blue states create a parallel, but regulated with the consumer in mind, banking system, then it's harder for the feds to get our money against our will

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u/amisslife Canada 1d ago

I've mentioned this before, but this might be where you can do what's called an "Interstate Compact."

Basically, states band together to get stuff done. I've long thought it might be beneficial to do on a regional scale (e.g. New England) or for an issue like healthcare, but I think you're onto something here.

They can bully any one of you - they might even be able to bully most states simultaneously. But they cannot bully all of you at the same time if you band together.

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u/espressocycle 1d ago

I think New England and California could both secede while maintaining state lines. The rest of the country is too divided.

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u/AiBestGirl95 1d ago

Oregon and Washington could form Cascadia

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u/espressocycle 1d ago

The eastern parts of both states would object. A lot of them already want to join Idaho.

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u/Duna_The_Lionboy 1d ago

They need to lift themselves up by their own bootstraps for once.

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u/1ndiana_Pwns 1d ago

Blue states seceding? The United States undergoing balkanization?

I'm not against this, shockingly

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u/Inside-Palpitation25 1d ago

I just said yesterday, that If a democrat ever wins again, I want them to say that the Blue states are Tired of giving the red states money, that the red states will only get back in Fed money, what they PAY!

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

Right?? We have proportional representation, why not proportional taxation and allotments?

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u/MasterChildhood437 1d ago

Unfortunately the vast amount of space between California and the eastern blue states makes it challenging to become a singular entity. Likely New England either becomes its own thing or partners with New York and its sphere of influence.

I see this as roughly being the way things go in the next decade, since the differences between ideologies are irreconciliable. Five or six different nations resulting in the end, with California, New York, Texas, and Florida being the major territories.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

Canada connects us like a horseshoe.

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u/trailstomper 1d ago

New England + New York sounds good to me, as a Mainer. Call it 'Greater New England' or 'The Republic of the Northeast' or freaking 'Yankeeland' for all I care. We'd make a great little country!

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

New England has a registered non-profit to become their own country: r/RepublicofNE

I'm in New York and I know we're a decade behind New England in starting our own movement but we're trying our hardest to recruit enough supporters and volunteers at r/NYEXIT so that some day we will have our own website, fb, instagram, and fundraise to become a registered non-profit.

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u/i_love_pencils 1d ago

United States of Canadia?

How aboot no?

If you want in, you’re becoming provinces…

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u/Zjarrr 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is why I think an independent nation (or a few nations) that closely ally themselves to Canada is the way to go. As a Minnesotan I have always felt closer to Canadians then I have with most of my countrymen, but I definitely understand that the feeling isn't mutual after threatening to annex you and then placing tariffs on you for no reason

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u/i_love_pencils 1d ago

Well put…

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u/amisslife Canada 1d ago

Pretty much. This might end up being what we have to consider, if the US as a whole does not change course soon.

Honestly, if one or two states wanted to become provinces, we could probably do that. But any more than that? Just become your own country; we can have a close alliance, maybe even do an EU-style thing.

I enjoyed my time in Minnesota when I visited, and although it'd be kind of nice on one hand to have you join, it might be even better to just make your own country and we can be best friends/lovers in the night.

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u/Im_Not_Important 1d ago

The provence of New England does have a ring to it

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u/DOG_DICK__ 1d ago

I guess France will provide a Provence if we're committed to that spelling.

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u/cyanescens_burn 1d ago

Consider giving northern NH, VT, and ME to Quebec. Culturally they have some French roots right?

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

The new provinces of New England, New York (which includes New Jersey and Delaware),the Great Lakes, and Cascadia out west.

I feel bad for Colorado though.

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

Meh it's up to them to ally with New Mexico and start their own movement.

If California, Cascadia, New England, and New Amsterdam have our own movements, Laurentians and Sonorans need to take note.

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u/NotASalamanderBoi I voted 1d ago

Fine by me.

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u/KarmicDevelopment 1d ago

I'd happily be the province of IL in CA at this point.

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u/MaddyKet 19h ago

I’m not opposed. Can we be the New England Province?

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u/ThePhoenixus 1d ago

It's nice in theory but I have a bridge to sell you if you think Trump MAGA would let go peacefully.

Not to mention that theres no such thing as a pure red or blue state. Even the most blue states have about 30-40% of people who voted Republican, and the most red states have 30-40% people who vote Democrat.

In terms of numbers, there's more Republicans in states like New York and California than there are the total population of states like Alabama and Oklahoma. And vice versa theres more democrats in Florida and Texas than there are the total people in states like Maine and Massachusetts.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

It might be an India / Pakistan type of situation, which would be unpleasant, but that's better than the alternative. If it does come to civil war, we already know how that ends and the last time we didn't have the west coast. It would be quick work.

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u/JeanLucPicardAND 1d ago

It's nice in theory but I have a bridge to sell you if you think Trump MAGA would let go peacefully.

Don't act like that's purely a MAGA thing. The secession question was resolved back in 1865. No one gets to leave.

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u/DrawThink2526 10h ago

This would all make better sense if MAGA moves to Russia—just think, all the incels will have their chance at Russian brides, Proud Boys and Oath Keepers can join the Russian Military, and Putin & Trump can live in a compound with the Musk horde…every creepy one in the same place—since they are the ones who have always thought America wasn’t already great. I mean, moving all the red hats OUT of OUR great America makes more sense than all of us shattering our own country. And hey, we could all help them move. The MAGA Migration. Now THAT would make America GREAT!!

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u/TheAnalogKid18 1d ago

Gotta include VA too.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

It would be kind of awkward if we took DC.

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u/theapeboy 1d ago

The East Coast and West Coast secede in partnership. PINCER MOVE.

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u/nucking_futs_001 1d ago

Let's all be Canada!

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u/notsofunonabun 1d ago

Thank you for using “loose” correctly.

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u/Etrigone California 1d ago

I do wonder, if we did secede, would he send the military in ala Russian & Ukraine? I can totally see that.

I mean I could see him in one breath - cuz supposedly America hates California and all we are/stand for - even kicking us out & saying they're better off without us. But then, next breathe, the above.

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

It's unknown but I do know someone who wouldn't lift a finger to stop CA: Marjorie Taylor Greene.

A large percentage of Republicans want a peaceful national divorce so that they can be a one party state in Jesusland.

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u/early_birdy 1d ago

As a Canadian, I would agree to such a arrangement. It would be the best of both world for both of us IMHO.

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u/PaulTheMerc 1d ago

Learn the basics. If you're joining Canada, we use the term Provinces(or Territories)

Canada & the United Territories has a nice ring to it.

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u/MasterChildhood437 1d ago

Canada & the United Territories

Sounds like a 90s fantasy cartoon.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

"territories" sounds like we're homesteaders or something. How about the United Federation of Canada and the American States?

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u/darkstar3333 1d ago

As a Canadian, wed rather you retain your independence and identity. Your past is important.

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

A lot of our past sucks. I'd like to focus on the future.

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u/jinreeko 1d ago

Can I come too? I live in Pennsylvania but definitely want the middle half of our state (or really anything an hour outside Pittsburgh/Philly and to a lesser degree Lancaster) firebombed

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

We might have to cut PA in half.

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u/bobdob123usa 1d ago

The Canadian Provinces of America

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

I don't care if we call it Fredonia, as long as we get away from Trump.

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u/iamnotcreative 1d ago

What sucks is being in a dark red state with blue parts. The Lake Erie coast of Ohio is varying degrees of blue; I do not want to be left in Gilead after everyone leaves

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

That's true. Some people might have to be given some $$$ to resettle.

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

Why don't you just move to Illinois?

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u/fragilemuse 1d ago

Canada is Canada, we will never be the "United States" of anything.

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u/thefudd 1d ago

Fuck yeah

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u/KarmicDevelopment 1d ago

lightly kicks dirt on the ground while looking down

Can IL join this new club?

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

We couldn't leave without Chicago! I think the whole "blue wall" should leave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_(United_States))

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u/Appropriate_Golf2558 1d ago

inb4 all the MAGAts that said “if you don’t like it, you can get out” start whining about how blue states leaving hurts them

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u/Fif112 Canada 23h ago

As a Canadian, you really don’t need us.

As much as I’d love to have you as a part of our country, you really don’t need us for anything you’d be doing alone.

Happy for the trade, and to work with you as whatever you exit the states and if you wanted to combine I don’t think anyone would be that upset about it (on our side)

But again, you guys would be more than fine on your own and don’t need to be a part of our country.

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

Why don't you just join the r/RepublicofNE they're an organized non-profit in your area.

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u/ticketsonsalenow 1d ago

No, they wouldnt.

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u/slackerzinc 1d ago

Not big on the name, but we (Canada) should do this

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

It could be just plain Canada for all I care. I just want out.

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u/slackerzinc 1d ago

Its almost a bad dream, hard to believe some people think what is happening is ok

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u/Nirvana-Rose 1d ago

Wondering if I should leave Michigan or maybe as a whole we are still as blue as the rest of the

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

A lot of the Great Lakes area is part of the blue wall (NH is too, despite this map). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_(United_States))

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 23h ago

You should leave Michigan and move to Illinois.

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u/rorykoehler 1d ago

Join the EU. It would be the best outcome and all sane countries are welcome

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u/MaddyKet 19h ago

Haha could you imagine? On the 250th anniversary of America, New England secedes and returns to England.

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u/brihere 1d ago

Maybe a province or territory… we want none of the United States rhetoric, culture or other crap tainting us in any way here!! … but only Deep blue states where voters are 90% liberal.

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u/katgyrl 23h ago

No thanks. Sorry 😬

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u/will_waltz 22h ago

It’s time for them to make their own way.

Edit: (the red states)

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u/MaddyKet 19h ago

The United Coasts of America*

*and its blue islands (Colorado, MI, MN etc)

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u/b34tn1k 1d ago

Every time those "fixed it" maps come out where it draws US states as part of Canada they always leave out CO and NM but include a couple of trump voting states. Due to that I've felt we should strike out on our own. We could control the flow of the Colorado River as leverage.

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 1d ago

Eh, invade Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho and occupy them.

Those people will go full Talliban of course, but they have been trying to do that for decades anyway so we would just be fulfilling their dreams. Until they realize that ammo and gas are actually hard to find when you're an occupied territory. But let's not let their dreams be dreams.

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u/ArmyofRiverdancers 18h ago

Again. Issue is the military we have in our geographic area is NOT LOYAL to us. 

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u/ArmyofRiverdancers 18h ago

Californian here. Would like to observe that having Colorado Springs and the full Colorado river watershed are honestly too good for most dystopian scenarios to speculate on for secession planning.

Figs. CO have the NORAD HQ and Alternate Command posts in your area. NM has White Sands and Los Alamos. And The Colorado river states in between are ideal because SoCal agriculture is literally tied to that dam river like an umbilicus. 

It takes practically all the issues out except for the military presence, which is too mixed and indoctrinated to prevent a bloodbath. 

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

As a fellow Colorado resident, all I can think about is how we can find a way to link up to these other blue states. Also, I wish that our state government had the balls that CA does. If anything, I will pack my ass up and move back to the West Coast.

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u/butwhyisitso 1d ago

New rule, you must have elevation gain of xyz to join the Reunited Democratic Assembly. (must be this tall to play lol)

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

Easier to defend a mountain range? 🤷‍♂️

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u/AllRushMixTapes 1d ago

Better footing for the upcoming water wars.

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u/fluffHead_0919 1d ago

Haha I tried to crosspost to r/Colorado but it’s not allowed :(

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u/WatInTheForest 1d ago

Don't forget Washington. We have the apples and coffee. 

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

You guys are in the blue strip and connect to Canada naturally.

We’re surrounded by red

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u/6435683453 1d ago

As a Canadian, I honestly think the best case scenario here is for the three west coast states to secede and form their own nation, and for New England to do the same.

If your Constitution no longer matters, then there's nothing to stop either region from telling the red states to piss off.

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

I’m less worried about it the anemic red states surrounding us and more about the fact we’d be cut off from support by geography if he sicced the US military our way

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u/Snoutysensations 1d ago

If your Constitution no longer matters, then there's nothing to stop either region from telling the red states to piss off.

Except for the giant US military, which is politically majority Republican, far more than the general population, even though ethnic minorities disproportionately enlist.

Doubtless many soldiers and officers would be reluctant to attack other Americans, but I have no doubt that some would take pleasure in it.

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u/Daghain 1d ago

Another Coloradoan here! Take us with you!

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u/climb-it-ographer 1d ago

Arizona clinging on for dear life.

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

We want burning man still, you can come too

Edit: wait that’s Nevada mb

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u/MasterChildhood437 1d ago

Arizona likely safe, has to become a haven for New Mexico's refugees.

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u/ragnarokxg 1d ago

New Mexico wants in as well.

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u/mcaster10 1d ago

We have lots of fresh water in Michigan. Take us too!

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 1d ago

Can NM come along? It would give CA basically the entire nuclear weapons complex. The only thing they wouldn't have is Oak Ridge.

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u/ArmyofRiverdancers 18h ago

Can't speak for my state but we'd be idiots not to want you. 

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u/no_mudbug 1d ago

Take us with you! Signed, my family.

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u/Paid2G00gl3 1d ago

You’d be welcome

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u/brunnor 1d ago

I'm moving to Colorado from Texas is June, please wait a little bit!

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

It’s still lovely here. Idk where we’ll be in a couple years though

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u/brunnor 1d ago

Same goes for everywhere sadly.

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u/Evening_Vast5224 1d ago

Seconded this! The mountain west, the West and East Coasts should all be there together.

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u/Apprehensive_Fig7588 1d ago

Wisconsnite here. We are too far from either coast. We are fucked.

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u/NiviCompleo 1d ago

canada extends an open hand

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u/Fine-Lingonberry1251 1d ago

Only if you admit the avs broadcasters are homers

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u/JimPanZoo 1d ago

Only if you leave Bobo and others of her ilk behind.

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

We don’t like her either. We just have a lot of backwater mountain towns

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u/keigo199013 Alabama 1d ago

As an Alabamian, can I camp in somebody's backyard? The rest of Alabama isn't worth taking. 

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u/Inside-Palpitation25 1d ago

IF they do I'm moving to CO.

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u/Baxterado 1d ago edited 1d ago

I wish we were not surrounded by WY, KS, UT and NE though. Like a blue island Colorado

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u/Deep-Sentence9893 1d ago

Don't forget blue NM.

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u/Recent-Ad-5493 1d ago

Take us with you, California

Signed - Blue counties of Michigan.

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u/CyclopsTheBess 1d ago

Sorry. Boebert is a deal breaker.

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u/spiraliist 1d ago

You guys keep electing Boebert, so I dunno, man...

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u/GlowUpper 1d ago

There's room in the car for Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. New York and Illinois will have to caravan separately.

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u/treecatks 1d ago

Us too! My kids were born in California, though, maybe that will qualify as anchor babies?

Signed, Kansas

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u/shessocold1969 1d ago

Colorado needs to align with New Mexico. We will take you with us. Once it happens states like Nevada and Arizona will want in. Then we’ll be a geographically continuous country.

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u/illgot 1d ago

/signed the United States

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u/orangechicken21 1d ago

What if y'all do NC one last favor and drag us with you!!!

... Please...

(Blinks twice)

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u/unclefire Arizona 1d ago

Arizona too please.

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u/frank_the_tank69 1d ago

Leave Boebert and we got a deal. 

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

Fucking gladly. She comes from a pretty backwards trailer town no one likes anyway.

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u/codywater 1d ago

Minus Weld County, which tried to secede from the state a while back. Let them suffer with the other non-contributing reds.

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u/FROMtheASHES984 1d ago

Not a chance here, but as a non insane minded Texan, I would be happy to join.

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u/Logical-Witness-3361 1d ago

Happily... Give us some water~

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u/Marsupial-Huge 1d ago

And Oregon!

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u/ClockSpiritual6596 1d ago

NY joins in.

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u/SleepyMastodon 22h ago

Okay, but take care of that Boebert thing first.

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u/TehMephs 21h ago

Dw, no one here likes her except her trailer trash district

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u/ProgrammerGeneral249 18h ago

Take us with you signed everyone else???

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u/ODIEkriss 17h ago

WE shall make a Western Alliance, California, Oregon, Washington together control all trade coming in from the pacific which is huge, aswell as the busiest ports of entry from Mexico at least. Colorado is invited, as is Nevada and New Mexico.

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u/habb I voted 11h ago

yes this

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