Honest question: how do you short? I’ve been hearing this forever but don’t truly understand how one can make money on value loss? Like don’t you need to own the stock to trade it? And if you own it, you buy it, and if it’s lower then you lose money.
Genuine question but a high regarded and artistic person.
Exchanges often let you speculate with leverage on price changes without ever owning the stock.
You can open long (buy) or short (sell) positions. And when you close it you do the opposite of what you originally did.
You provide a margin which is your cash to cover losses because the exchange is obviously not going to do that for you.
So say a stock is worth 100 dollars.
You open a short position and sell the stock for 100 dollars.
Stock drops to 90 dollars.
You close the position with a buy and buy it back for 90 dollars.
You pocket 10 dollars.
It's slightly more complex as you are borrowing money when you do this so each exchange has its fees and such which affect your 10 dollars profit. There's also spread which means that the cost of opening a position is slightly different based on whether it's a short or buy so you need there to be a significant spike in price before you realise a profit. This is all how the exchange makes money from you doing it.
In reality the vast majority of retail traders lose money this way and if you're asking for an explanation on how it works you'd probably lose money too.
Economists and speculators have been crying about the valuation crisis in the market for years. I was a gay bear for a while but couldn't weather out the bull market. Kudos to my gay bear bros that stuck it out, they deserve this win.
Wish I wasn't a greedy fuck. I figured he'd pump market to say see I made the highest stonk gains ever. My NVDa leaps went from 100% up to 15% up just to save some long term cap gains taxes ...now it's not even worth it and I've learned my lesson. Even with leaps just fucking take the profits lmao
Most people are stuck in their ways of thinking and have a hard time imagining people doing shit they find ass backwards.
Like, if you walk by a dog turd, and some dude picks it up and says "I'm going to eat this dog turd." You won't actually believe he will do it, until you see it done.
Even then many will think "it's a prank, right? that's chocolate. No one would actually eat dog shit."
It only truly sinks in for all when he breathes in your face and you smell the dog shit.
Which is why one should rebalance their portfolio after a big swing. If you make a million dollars, then rebalance 10% of that into bonds before everything tanks, you still walk away with 100k.
But this isn't an investing sub, it's a loss porn generator. So let it ride!
Ofcourse there's always one of these comments. Guy makes a 10 bagger and the autists in the comments "omg leave, IV gonna crush you! Also, what's IV? I just see comments about It over and over"
Wait until DOGE decides that police departments have been wasting their money on Mexican made Fords after the tariffs hike up prices, then decide that it's a better financial decision to use Cybertrucks, then it becomes a government mandate for any police department to receive federal assistance.
That's also the same reason it will continue to sink. A business this politicized is absolutely toxic. It's also extremely ironic because the people most likely to no longer purchase Tesla were supposed to be the main market for electric cars. With Elon or without Tesla might be cooked for good.
You should know that Tesla is only where it's at 6 months ago, where it was already inflated. When we reflect the current sales numbers, it should be under 100. Any bagholders are just fucked for good
When you account for the fact that Tesla is a fractal of fraud, every layer of the onion you peel back is more repulsive than the last then $10/ share is too much.
It's an electric car company a tiny high end niche for rich pricks. Now that Musk has revealed his true colours the brand is also in trouble. I'm sure Trump will give him a pardon so it's worth it for him.
It's an electric car company a tiny high end niche for rich pricks.
I disagree. Teslas are tramp stamps, or wall-mounted singing fish. They are tacky, they aren't competitive products on utility, and the whole company is held up by government interventions and unicorn farts. When the stock circus finally erodes and Tesla is forced to be just another competitor in the automotive sector, they will be forced to completely change direction or else they won't survive.
You should buy the stock, I hear Elon Musk is a genius or something. Teach us gay bers a lesson by demonstrating your absolute commitment to sucking his dick.
I'm sure that "your prosperity is guaranteed under any scenario".
News flash: the con man doesn't give a shit about you once he's stolen your money. You're just another sucker.
Yea. I've lost on a lot of Tesla shorts and gave up. He would be on an earnings call talking bullshit and the stock would keep shooting up so I gave up on trying to understand what the fuck the market is looking for.
Yes. It's a $200k downpayment on a house, and $400k that doubles roughly every 12 years at a modest interest rate. If you can hold that fort down for 25 years making minimum payments and surviving just like you would without it, you're sitting on millions in home equity and investments.
So for someone under the age of 40, yeah it's definitely a life-changing amount of money.
Ah, so do you focus on buying deep OTM puts and taking quick profits when volatility spikes? That’s a solid way to capitalize on sharp moves, especially with how fast this market is shifting.
This linked post was actually what inspired me to buy Tesla puts too. +145% on 270p for April 25th. Earnings is the 23rd. Hope it's a blood bath for them.
Well done my fellow regard. I bought 300P, then 250P then 200 then 150P. All June monthlies as I figure that would give things enough time to s×&t the bed.
Apparently we could bought April monthlies and done fine. But this is the way
gotta love how OP shows hes making good gains and then you got some advisors telling him what to do. Dude is here not because of you clowns recommendations.
Extremely well played. This reminds me of 2007-2009, I’d get in the office and buy PUTS on a bank ETF and QQQ and close positions at close, made money 3-4 days a week
I told couple of days ago that people should short tesla for sure and here is an example of how to make quick buck. I mean tesla is going down lower than my balls during a hot summer day and I am glad people making tons of money from shorting this fucktards company to oblivion.
Nice work, but I'd dump the 4/17 200 and the 6/20 80 ASAP. Take some profits my man! I mean, Mango could announce tomorrow the government is buying 2,000,000 Teslas or whatever insanity.
Damn man. Nice shit. I’d consider closing out soon. I think Tesla is a stinky pile of shit. But it’s starting to get oversold now. Could have a relief rally of sorts soon. Don’t get too greedy!
I just sold my tesla stock that I bought in 2015, make 33k. Not a trader, I just bought em and waited. Wish I'd sold in October when I originally decided to.
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