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u/Gassenger 5d ago edited 4d ago
WOW players seem to really hate playing the game
Edit: The amount of people that got buttpissy and felt the need to type paragraphs in response to this is hilarious. For people that don't want to "waste time" gold farming, you certainly seem to enjoy wasting time projecting and whining in response to an obvious throw-away bit of joking
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u/KawZRX 4d ago
This is my sentiment
You pay blizzard to access their game
You then pay someone to play the game for you by getting boosted.
Then you pay someone to play the game at cap for you outside of raids. (Gold buying)
It's insane. So you're saying two different idiots to play the game but also not play the game. Fuck gold buying.
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u/RyukaBuddy 4d ago
It's because the classic gameplay loop is garbage. Sorry, but leveling and farming are not fun for 80% of the classes in this game. I have no idea how anyone who isn't a hunter or mage enjoys farming.
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u/Squizlet 4d ago
What is the point of playing if you think the game isn’t fun lmao
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u/MwHighlander 4d ago
Gold Buyers in denial in a nutshell.
"The gameplay loop is garbage, so I pay to not do it"
Even better idea, don't pay to not play. Aka, stop playing.
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u/ScalarWeapon 4d ago
Makes sense. I know that when I'm gaming, I go out of my way to choose games where I think the gameplay is garbage.
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u/_stormruler 4d ago
wow players buying gold 🤝 osrs players buying accounts 🤝 ff14 players buying raid clears
mmo players hate mmos confirmed
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u/Ardibanan 5d ago
Its like Star Wars fans.
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u/Michelanvalo 4d ago edited 4d ago
I hate this platitude so much. Who else is going to be the biggest critic of a topic other than it's most ardent fans? Who knows the topic more, better and is more passionate about it?
Using your Star Wars example, would Star Trek fans who don't watch Star Wars be the most critical? Of course not, they don't have any passion for the media.
You know what group is most critical about WoW? WoW players because we're the ones who give a shit.
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u/travman064 4d ago
There are people who largely like the game and might have some criticisms.
But it often feels like the majority of complaining on the wow subs is from people who think WoW hasn't been good for more than a decade, that Blizzard is a shit company running the game into the ground when every other game studio would be doing a better job, and they just sulk and mope and whine about everything.
Imagine you like this restaurant.
Then, the menu changes, or they have new staff, or maybe you've changed, it's hard to say. But the food just doesn't taste as good as it did.
And then, YEARS later, you still don't like the food.
At a certain point, you have to move on with your life. If the restaurant isn't doing it for you anymore, just stop going there.
I do not care how important that restaurant is or was to you. It just isn't healthy to be so upset about it. It isn't 'passion.' If you still hate it now, sorry but it's time to move on and stop thinking about it. Stop letting it pre-occupy you.
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u/Altyrmadiken 4d ago
The reason that experience exists is because that’s how human psychology works. We can talk about short circuiting that for our own benefit, but it’s not “stupid” or “wrong” for someone to experience it.
I think there’s an opposite of a honeymoon at the end, and people act like there’s tons of players who stay there for years.
In my experience it’s more likely a conveyor belt. It’s not 100 people complaining for 5 years. Most of them leave after a few months, because they know it’s not ideal. But we keep seeing a conveyor belt of people in that state for 5 years, so it feels like it’s happening the way we think.
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u/TrueExigo 4d ago
i hate star wars more than every star wars fan. the only good thing about star wars is princess leia - she is just the best disney princess
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u/New-Resident3385 5d ago
Tbh gold sellers and gdkps ruined classic for me.
Its worse than retail in how it effects gameplay.
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u/CompetitiveLaughing 4d ago
I like the concept of gdkp, IF there was the perfect world with 0 botting and gold selling.
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u/Jambogamebo 5d ago
They both involve cheating rather than effort so yeh it is the same.
Also both incredibly stupid, the grind is what makes the game without it your just flaunting your insecurities.
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u/Large_Ad_5172 4d ago
"I like this grind, but I hate this other grind, so I'll pay to do my other grinding faster"
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u/Vinyl_DjPon3 5d ago
This thread and many of the comments just kind of ignoring what Elon's goal was with the account stunt.
Buying gold, shameful as it is, is done by players so they can more quickly play content they like to play.
Elon bought the account in an attempt to make people believe he was good at a game he's barely played for public clout.
Like, you're unironically giving more credit to Elon here by thinking they're the same.
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u/Vilraz 4d ago
Im quite sure most of people who buy gold specially for gear are the same breed as Elon.
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u/Zeyz 5d ago
I disagree, I think this is a reach. I get the sentiment but it’s not the same thing.
There’s RMT in PoE as well, you can buy currency just like you can in WoW. If that’s all Elon was doing I’d agree. But he’s doing that plus getting piloted by someone much better than him to appear to be a skilled/high level player.
The WoW equivalent would be buying gold + getting your character leveled to 60 by someone else, then having them get top tier parses for you as well or having them grind to R14 for you.
If you’re buying gold but still leveling yourself, raiding yourself, doing PVP yourself I have a hard time saying you’re doing the same thing as someone who is just not doing any of that themselves. You’re taking a shortcut, sure, but there’s levels to it in my opinion.
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u/Pkock 5d ago
What Elon is doing is more like an arena carry service for glad mount.
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 5d ago
Bingo and then telling us all he's Reckless Glad, but then when he streams himself playing he looks like an 8yr old kid who just got the game for Christmas.
That POE stream he did was so cringe. Anyone who has spent more than 10hrs playing games in their life could instantly tell this kid was clueless and had APM similar to my arthritic mother in law.
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u/TimmyWimmyWooWoo 5d ago edited 5d ago
He also lied about it and claimed it was an accomplishment. You'd have to be unhinged to brag about all your gold after going and buying it.
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago
They absolutely do this - burn thousands of consumes per raid then talk about how easy the game is, ignoring that old school MMO skill was very heavily based on preparation.
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u/ThePianistOfDoom 4d ago
you don't brag about your salary, you brag with the sportscar you buy. Same with player that buy gold and once they reach 60 suddenly have Hide of the wild, Corehound belt, two maiden rings and call it pre-raid bis gear. Or the people that pay other players to do their raids for them. They prance around with it.
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u/KingSwank 5d ago
Yeah I get that OP is just trying to talk shit to gold buyers but paying someone to play the game enough for you to be in the top 100 on the leaderboards and then pretending to the entire world to have done it all yourself is leagues more insane than buying gold.
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago
Nah he was just better at it cause he had more money.
Exact same motivation and mindset.
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u/DavidBrooker 5d ago
I think they're different points on the same spectrum. What Elon did is on a pretty extreme end of things, but they're both paying someone to play part of the game for you. Buying gold is paying for a much smaller aspect of the game than Elon basically having no idea how to play, but like, we're talking about the setting on the dial, not which dial we're turning, imho.
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u/PsychologicalHat6027 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think they're different points on the same spectrum.
I think this is the key reason for the disagreement in the comments, what spectrum is being discussed.
If the spectrum is just
paying someone to play part of the game for you
then agreed, however most discussion I've seen around Elon's stuff isn't that, it's the acting like he did it all himself and that his ability matches his rank. So the spectrum they are commenting on is more
claiming achievements and the skill that got them as your own even though someone else actually did it
which means buying gold wouldn't be related unless the person was also going around bragging about how much gold they have and how they earned it all themself. If Elon didn't try to claim it was his own work multiple times, I'm fairly certain most people just wouldn't give a shit.
The relevance of each spectrum to me at least is more clear when you remove money from both sides. If someone just got a lucky drop early and tossed it on the AH for a ton of gold, then used that to avoid having to play most of the game, is that still an issue for the first spectrum? Similarly, if someone was gifted an item for free from a friend, but then went around bragging about how many hours they spent grinding and how amazing they are based on having that item, is that not an issue just because no money was spent?
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u/tycoon39601 4d ago
It's not a reach. You can only barely label it a reach because GDKP's are banned and we totally ignore all the epics you can purchase off the AH. Gold-making is an integral part of the grind that classic wow provides and paying real world money to skip it is fundamentally cheating. It doesn't help that a lot of big things are tied to it too. Epic mount, Lionheart helm, Edgeguards just to name a few.
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u/Vleaw 5d ago
Exactly this man. Bro is reachin for the stars
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u/klonkish 5d ago
/r/classicwow's easiest circlejerk karma farm
gold buying bad, updoots to the left m'kind strangers 😎
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u/Accident_Pedo 5d ago
It's not surprising at all that people get upset about this though. Look at this thread - you'll see [deleted] on a lot now but there were several users talking about the steps in buying gold and how it's completely fine
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago
So apparently "stop cheating and ruining the fucking game" has somehow become a circlejerk now.
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago
The WoW equivalent would be buying gold + getting your character leveled to 60 by someone else, then having them get top tier parses for you as well or having them grind to R14 for you.
So buying gold then buying boosts then heading into discord based GDKPs to hoover up all the gear?
Got it, so it's exactly the same.
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u/Pertinacious 5d ago
If you paid someone to pilot your character in the GDKP runs and top parse with your toon while claiming it was you all along, sure.
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u/charizard_72 5d ago
Right like how is that the same? Getting a lot of gold takes more time than skill. Getting someone to play for you is removing all skill involved whatsoever. Not remotely the same in a competitive/ranked game, and a very circle jerky reach
Let alone to then take credit for the achievements. The only equivalent is to buy gold and then brag about how rich you are which no one is doing that I know of
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u/shadowmeldop 5d ago
So you're just ignoring the time factor for the other half? "Getting gold takes time..." So does leveling and getting gear. It's not a reach at all.
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u/spmca 5d ago
Gold-buying does not inherently make you good at the game, which is what Elon was claiming
The better equivalency would be "paying someone to play my character to Rank 1 gladiator".
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u/Blacksmith210 5d ago
Anyone who pays for gold or pays for boosts is not the kind of person I care to spend my time with.
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u/Dkteaux 5d ago
Elon was pretending to be top 7 player in a brand new competitive game.
I don’t buy gold but I disagree with you. Buying gold will save you time and will buy you a few pieces in a 20 year old game that’s been done time and time again.
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago
Buying gold will save you time and will buy you a few pieces in a 20 year old game that’s been done time and time again.
I love how people phrase this as "it's an old game it doesn't matter at all... but it does matter enough for me to cheat and pretend I'm good at it!"
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u/e-kul 5d ago
What? Paying for someone to level you and gear you will also "save you time". Both are paying real money for an in-game service.
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u/douknowhouare 5d ago
The reason people were mad at Elon wasn't that he was boosting, it was that he was lying about being a top 10 in the world god gamer and using his boosted account as some kind of bonafides. Gold buying is cancer, but Joe Shmoe the Dad Gamer who buys enough gold for consumes so he can raid with his boys after a 50 hour work week is not lying to millions of people about how much of god gamer he is. OP just chose to use Elon as a comparison because he knew it would trigger the most amount of people lol
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u/Jonaldys 5d ago
We really don't need to be so reductive. People were definitely mad for both reasons.
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u/lloydscocktalisman 5d ago
Joe schmoe dad gamer buying gold is the reason everything is so inflated and THUS the reason everyone buys gold. So yea, he is the problem. Just thought you should know.
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u/douknowhouare 5d ago
I didn't say it wasn't a problem, and that's not even what we're talking about. We're talking about the difference between Elon boosting and gold buying.
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u/Aromatic_Extension93 5d ago
You can buy gold in POE as well buddy. If that was a same thing we wouldnt be making a big deal out of someone playing elons account
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u/Yegas 5d ago
PoE is not a “competitive” game, it’s arguably more single-player than WoW is
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u/keithstonee 5d ago
Buying gold will save you time
your the reason games suck. you cant rationalize cheating.
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u/SoulfulNick 5d ago
Similar because you are using 3rd party pay to win services to gain an edge in online gaming. However, buying gold to afford consumes to pump dps with the boys is a little different than the richest man in the world paying someone to play his account so he can pretend to be an expert.
Afterthought: There are definitely people who buy gold so they can pretend to be an expert in the game. I’ve met them.
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u/astrielx 5d ago
Gold buyers will always try to justify why they buy gold.
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u/NeonRhapsody 4d ago
Paying twice just to fuckin' raidlog is some absolutely profound mental illness I just can't comprehend, myself.
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u/ThePianistOfDoom 4d ago
Always. All the people here whining about nuance are just gold-buyers that feel attacked. I pity them.
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u/LerntLesen 5d ago
I don’t care about both of those things. I just want to have fun gaming
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u/Nice_Put6911 5d ago
Just wait until it directly impacts your fun. Then all of the sudden you care. You don’t care about anyone else until it effects you personally is basically your stance.
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u/WealthyPaul 5d ago
If someone has fun hacking online, is that also valid for them to do?
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u/pat-123 5d ago
If your fun is against ToS and affects others yes.
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u/ssmit102 5d ago
A big part of the game for me is grinding gold to be ready for raids. To me it’s just raid preparation.
But sure, the comparison may not be exact but the amount of people providing lame reasons to support gold buying are just lame. Yes, it’s far more efficient to swipe your card than it is to spend 5x that amount of time grinding the gold in game - it’s still cheating, and you should be banned for it. The problem is gold buyers, bots, and blizzards lack of moderation - too many here are acting like they aren’t the problem
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u/Mattstaj 5d ago
A lot of gold buyers in this thread LOL.
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u/Namaha 5d ago
"Anyone who disagrees is a GOLDBUYER!!1"
No dawg, it's just not a very well thought out point
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u/modernmythologies 5d ago
The difference is that Elon is an insanely powerful billionaire with huge amounts of input on the future of the United States of America, and him lying about something so simple speaks poorly of his priorities, judgement, and need to be seen as "cool" as he tears major US institutions to the ground with little oversight.
Whereas someone buying gold maybe makes your flask a bit pricer.
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u/Steezmoney 5d ago
no but it's the same thing, people who will buy gold is why people will sell it. skipping the grind to get your flasks. Like I get it, by why are you paying money to skip the part where you actually play the game so that you don;t have to play? Shits crazy
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u/modernmythologies 5d ago
...okay... but the issue with Elon isn't a GAMING issue, it's a massive political and cultural issue. It's not about PoE... it's about Elon. So, sure, you can say that a part of the thing is the same thing... but at that point you're just jumping through hoops to make a braindead point. Which, of course, is what you were trying to do anyway, so I'll see myself out!
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u/Unhappy_Cut7438 5d ago
claassic andys lol. Never change bro
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u/Steezmoney 5d ago
How dare I post about classic wow in the classic wow subreddit. Why don’t SoD guys go make their own subreddit?
Do you think players should buying gold if they don’t want to play classic but want all the gear? Because I’m standing firm that it’s ridiculous.
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u/Wrong_Excitement221 5d ago
True, IF the person buying gold then goes on the Joe Rogan podcast to brag about how good they are based on how much gold they have...
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u/ThePianistOfDoom 4d ago
Idiots that think they have the right to invest their money into buying gold because 'ThEy dOnT HaVe tHe tImE'. Bitch I'm a father of four and still manage to get 400G a week selling potions. Login in the morning, put them on AH, when you're home during server prime time check the AH a little more often so you don't get undercut. It's not that complicated.
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u/SenorWeon 5d ago
It's not, what Musk did was way way more cringe and pathetic.
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u/Hademar 5d ago
It's definitely more cringe and pathetic, but buying gold is also very cringe and pathetic.
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u/darkmizzle 5d ago
found the gold buyer
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u/douknowhouare 5d ago
Lmao you people are goofy.
"Buying gold is bad, but the 2nd most powerful man in the world being a pathological liar about even the most mundane things is actually worse."
"Lol gold buyer spotted."
Seriously how simple is your life that you can't comprehend the difference?
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u/cult_of_memes 5d ago
Reframing the statement for analysis:
Gold farming yourself to afford consumables is core to player skill and character development.
I think this wording is effectively equivalent to OPs wording in the context of the end game. And I'm not sure it's universally true.
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u/eKSiF 5d ago
Being able to navigate an in-game economy is a skill, it's just completely invalidated when all honest efforts to farm are outdone by a $20 charge.
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u/TakeMe2Threshhold 5d ago
My God all these gold buying losers trying to justify cheating. It is cheating. I don't really understand how people think blowing actual money on gold to acquire gear isn't cheating.
I would look at my character with disgust if I used those methods to get gear. It would always be in the back of my mind even if it was just one piece.
It reminds me of people back in the day using cheats on campaigns and bragging they beat the game. No.. You cheated. Therefore you have effectively negated every achievement or progress marker there is.
There is absolutely no difference between what Elon did and what gold buyers do. It's the exact same thing. You are paying someone else to play the game and reaping the "rewards" for it.
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u/Honest_Tomorrow8923 5d ago
Paying someone to play the game and boost you up the leader board is disingenuous as you are lying about your "ability" and "success".
Buying gold saves me time doing a mundane boring task; activating me to play the fun part of the game, raiding, speedruns etc. You cant buy a parse with gold, you still have to play the game.
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u/Dengo86 5d ago
Considering the most important factor in parsing is gear I'm gonna go ahead and say that you can in fact, buy a parse. In fact, if you're buying all of your gear for swiped gold you're likely to get best in slot long before someone who is actually competing with /rolls to get it, making it even easier to maintain a held high parse for longer.
People who buy gold are cringe, just like Elon.
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u/darkmizzle 5d ago
You're buying a fast track to that parse.
Elon's gear that he has on his character is nothing without the skill it takes to use it in high level mapping, the same as all the gold and gear in the world is nothing without the skill it takes to use it in high ranking parses.
Its two different types of cheating that result in the same end conclusion - You skipped the farming part of the game to get to the end game.
You are a cheater, plain and simple.
Also, if your gold equates to parses, please... Link your parses, I'd love to see what your money paid for.
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I personally can't be bothered to farm gold (to the extent that I'd need to if I wanted to afford more than I really need to play casually) if it's not offered as a service. While I'd much rather it not be a service at all, it just makes financial sense to purchase gold because at most I can make a couple hundred gold an hour by farming, whereas if I equate it to an hour of my job, my time is worth nearly 3000g according to g2g on Nightslayer right now. I'm not advocating buying gold, but I definitely see why people do it as long as they're clearly not being punished for it.
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u/caspa10152 5d ago
Same here, brother. Why spend hours farming when i can buy my weekly consumes for the same price of latte from Starbucks.
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u/MrBisco 5d ago
They're not the same thing.
Elon paying someone to play PoE instead of him doesn't affect the overall trade market. It doesn't inflate the value of highly sought-after items. It just inflates one narcissitic, self-important idiot's ego.
Buying gold simply compounds the difficulty of playing the game f2p over time, with compounding difficulty. Yes, lucky drops can offset that (as there's more gold in the economy, so BoE drops become more valuable as well), but the trade-off is clearly not one-to-one.
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u/bananaclipz69 5d ago
I don't even play the game anymore, but this is just a terrrrrrible take through and through lol
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u/MadChatter715 5d ago
One person is the richest man in the world paying another player to level up his character to make him look like he's skilled. Another is one person spending $30 because he doesn't want to farm 20-30 hours to buy his epic mount.
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u/FredNieman 5d ago
This is the dumbest false equivalency I’ve seen in a good while. No way someone actually believes this
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u/Pingaring 5d ago
My GM openly admits a lot of our pvp event's prize gold is bought, and I haven't thought twice about it. It doesn't affect my gameplay.
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u/gt35r 5d ago
Heavy disagree. Buying gold is just acquiring in-game currency, while paying someone to play your character is pretending to be better than you actually are. One is convenience; the other is deception.
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u/FalconGK81 5d ago
If you needed that gold and didn't have it, you'd have to play to get it. So you're paying for someone to gain you the gold you didn't play to get. That's exactly the same thing Elon is doing. The only difference is Elon is having them play his character, while you're having them play their character and then transfer the item to you.
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u/Shenloanne 5d ago
Plus if you buy gold and then use that to buy lotuses for flasks you're literally buying your own gold back from them.
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u/Apprehensive_Low4865 5d ago
I mean.. I get it, some of these lads playing warrior just did not realise how expensive and time consuming it was to get pvp gear, edgies, a lionheart and consumes. It's legit a full time job to play warrior this time around. I'm staying afloat, barely, by selling my tank services, and it does feel like damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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u/sirachillies 5d ago
Maybe I don't understand.. you can buy tokens and sell them for their current exchange rate..? Is that what's being discussed?
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u/Hademar 5d ago
That doesn't exist in anniversary classic (and sod) so only the illegal route is being discussed
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u/blade740 5d ago
Similar but not exactly the same. Elon had high-ranked characters on the leaderboard but his streams showed that he did not know how to play the game at that high level.
Someone who buys gold to pay for their raid consumes is still, presumably, actually able to play their character in the raid.
Yes, there are similarities - both are paying someone else to play the game for them. But one is just skipping the tedious farming so they can focus on playing the endgame. The other is skipping the whole game, including the part where you learn how to play, and then claiming credit for the leaderboard placement.
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u/piltonpfizerwallace 5d ago
Bit of a reach. It's similar if they lie about it and they're using it to buy gear that they flex.
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u/MrRightHanded 5d ago
People arent buying gold to pretend they are skilled. Paying for Gladiator would be the same, just gold buying is not.
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u/JamesFromTmRocket 5d ago
Pvping as a rogue in classic takes 0 skill, the fact you have multiple is pathetic, don't try to change my mind it's just a fact
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u/haboruhaborukrieg 5d ago
I still have 3,2k io growing on my main and 4/8 Mythic raiding while most of the guys here are wiping in BWL
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u/gabagooooooool 5d ago
Maybe someone buying enough gold to be in the top 10 richest wow players, then lying about it. No way your brain is telling you some dork buying 100 bucks worth of gold is the same as paying to be top in leaderboards then lying about it. I don’t even buy gold and this is such a mega reach lol
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u/sekksipanda 5d ago
Both are obnoxious and extremely toxic towards the game, but no, they cannot be compared at all.
The WoW equivalent would be like playing a top warrior in a speedrunning guild to get 99 or 100 parses in my account, swipe 100k gold, buy all the gear, and then go on podcasts saying "look how great I am, do you see these 100 parses? I am the best! Wow!".
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u/Ethelsone 5d ago
Someone can play me and go to work to grind irl
and I can just buy the tv and games after there done grinding
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u/12InchPickle 5d ago
I bought gold way back in the day because I didn’t have the time to grind as I focused on exploring. I also used a boosted character via invite a friend back to wow or whatever it was. I did very few questing. But needed gold for using fast traveling and repairs.
That’s not the same as me buying a leveled and geared toon.
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u/ThomCook 5d ago
As someone that doesn't play wow or know anything about it I'm going to try and change your mind.
Paying for gold allows you to purchase goods in the game and would let you fast track your progress while playing the game.
Whereas paying someone to play for you let's you fast track your progress without playing the game. This means when you do finally play at the higher levels you don't know how the systems of the game work and are a burden to play with. The lack of engaging with the game to achieve the end result is worse for surrounding players than just buying gold to fast track your progress.
Both are cheating for sure. But one is worse for other players and therefore they are not equal.
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u/mazzicc 5d ago
I disagree, but think both activities are a “cheat” of some form.
Anyone with the time to grind can amass gold. When you buy it, you’re just “buying time”.
But that doesn’t apply to anything “skill based” like getting a ranking or grinding on skill-based dungeons/encounters. When you pay someone else to do those, you’re cheating at a level slightly higher than buying gold.
The only skill you buy when buying gold is time efficiency: they can farm gold faster than you, or have more time to spend on it.
When you buy rankings or gear that’s behind a skilled encounter, you’re buying the skill necessary to reach that point.
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u/Asterdel 5d ago
On its own, not really. Both are a "pay to win" sort of thing, but one still technically involves playing the game in theory and isn't always done for clout, wheras Elon literally didn't know how to map worked in POE and wanted to convince people he was a top player just to look cool.
I'd say it's more akin to if an Only Fangs creator cheated the system to have a professional player play their account while telling people they were the ones actually playing. At least you have to play the game to spend your gold, Elon never cared to play the game in the first place.
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u/AvgWarcraftEnjoyer 5d ago
Could have been brave and put boosting in the box instead of buying gold. Booo
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u/HelloHeadphones 5d ago
For classic definitely! What's the point of "playing hardcore" if you just cheat. Mind you when this was just wow and not "classic" I am all for buying gold. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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u/Tuskor13 5d ago
I'd say what the muskrat did was closer to that one fiasco back in original Burning Crusade where some guy sold his account that had a rogue with Warglaives, then the guy who bought the account fucking sucked at playing Rogue
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u/hielotrap 5d ago
shit on the poor but hey not ur fault u arent bitcoin owners so u can max nexon cash
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u/crunchy_crystal 5d ago
Idgaf if someone is buying gold, that means someone can afford my AH prices. Win-win babyyyy!
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u/varatexLP 5d ago
I can see your point for Classic WoW. but I think WoW Tokens in retail changes the equation.
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u/BlaineMundane 5d ago
I disagree based only on the fact that a gold buyer known how to play their character when they sit down after a purchase. When you pay somebody to level, you are basically a baby again and have to piece together how things even work.
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u/Obrim 5d ago
You're wrong. This is apples to oranges lol.
Buying currency is not the same as having someone play and make you look better than you are. While I don't personally buy gold I can definitely see why people do since it saves you a lot of time and lets you dive into content instead of mindlessly farming.
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u/Xdeac 5d ago
What is fascinating to me is how there is a free market in the game, where money and gold are flowing to the paths of least resistance, yet a lot of the people want government regulation. We can see how the unrestrained capitalism is ruining the markets but take no issues with wealthy among us (unless they’re in video games of course).
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u/Which-Lavishness9234 5d ago
Blizzard makes money from subs. Bot accounts, gold sellers and gold buyers alike all pay for a sub. If blizzard canceled all of these subs, it would make their monthly subscriber total go down and in turn, lower their stock price. Publicly traded companies will do almost anything to endure their stock prices only ever go up. Therefore, no matter how much we all hate it, the bots and gold sellers are here to stay. I blame corporate America / the stock market more than anything. So yeah, they likely won't ever be truly banned. Sorry homie but hey, at least we suffer together!
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u/tirohtar 5d ago
It's worse, buying gold actively makes the game worse for everyone else who isn't buying gold, by providing a market for gold farmers to sell their illegal goods to, thus massively increasing gold supply and driving massive inflation in the economy.
If Blizzard were serious about fighting bots/gold sellers, buying gold would not result in a temporary ban of just a few weeks, it would be give a permanent account ban.
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u/Razorwipe 5d ago
You pissed off all the gold buyers