Some guy was pissed about shielded weapons

[u/SpectreWolf666]

I joined this quest to hunt a tempered Arkveld because it had a unholy amount of rewards and this guy was who I joined was running the hunting horn. Anyhow this guy began to get angry because he was trying to max out DPS or something. To be honest I don't know but anyhow, he wasn't happy that I was using Gunlance and told me to get off it for two reasons, weapons with guards are inherently no skill by design, and guarding takes away from DPS. Anyhow he proceeded to text something to the other guy who joined which was a SnS telling him to get off SnS or don't block. He spent most of the hunt texting lmao

This isn't anything extreme but it was amusing to me and I wanted to share

[u/HamFan03]

If I ran into a guy who told me "get off Greatsword or don't block" I would do nothing but block for the entire hunt.

[u/BigTroubleMan80 → u/HamFan03]

I’m a Switch Axe main and I second this.

[u/Dynastcunt → u/BigTroubleMan80]

I’m a hunting horn main, and I switch between GS, H/LBG, IS and hammer and I third this.

[u/RiseOfTheUndeadGnome → u/Dynastcunt]

SnS main I 4th this

[u/Slight_Pipe_1686 → u/RiseOfTheUndeadGnome]

Charge blade here joining for spot number 5. It has been 5th-ed

[u/HyruleDovah → u/Slight_Pipe_1686]

Charge blade also, agreed

[u/SunOfDio220 → u/HyruleDovah]

Man. Lotta charge blades here agree. Wanna point out. When we HAVE to guard, it still fills vials. So it helps DPS... edit ima dummy, 7th this

[u/BenjiBabbles → u/HamFan03]

Why block when you can cart?

[u/thatlonelyasianguy → u/BenjiBabbles]

Would be a shame if all of those carts happened to disappear because the GL wasn’t allowed to block

[u/AceMalicious → u/thatlonelyasianguy]

It would be a shame…

[u/BluEch0 → u/thatlonelyasianguy]

It might reinforce his view but it’d be funny when he rages “why do you suck so much” to respond “well you told me not to block”

And then triple cart just to waste their time lol

[u/Oyuki97 → u/HamFan03]

Maliciously comply.

Spend the entire time doing shoulder bash or kicking instead.

[u/Depreciable_Land → u/Oyuki97]

Kicking required blocking. Checkmate

[u/Moikle → u/Depreciable_Land]

Back in my day we could kick whenever we wanted *grumble grumble *

[u/Oyuki97 → u/Moikle]

presses the "select" button

[u/sharkeyx → u/Oyuki97]

here here!

[u/SpectreWolf666 → u/HamFan03]

Lmao I should have done that but I wanted the loot 😭

[u/HamFan03 → u/SpectreWolf666]

Its not about the loot. Its about sending a message.

[u/RicebabyUK → u/HamFan03]

Its not about the send. Its about messaging a l(o)ot.

[u/TheEternalWoodchuck → u/SpectreWolf666]

Loot is temporary. Victory is eternal.

[u/kingbetadad → u/SpectreWolf666]

I would have blocked the entire time then towards the end of the hunt, carted into a mission failed.

[u/TheSpyTurtle → u/HamFan03]

Block, kick, block, kick, block, kick. Whole fight until its dead or I am

[u/Jayoki6 → u/HamFan03]

I may be petty as fuck but i’d 100% just use kick to stagger him repeatedly throughout the hunt

[u/IggyKami → u/Jayoki6]

Long Sword: maliciously removes Shockproof jewel

[u/Kirutaru → u/HamFan03]

Alternatively, i recommend pulling out dual blades and immediately carting 3 times. Extra points if you custom a sticker to spam "MAH DPS!"

[u/Byzantiwm → u/HamFan03]

It’s about sending a message at that point lol

[u/Nearby-Contact1304 → u/HamFan03]

Gunlance/SnS user here.

For GL I would only attack out of a perfect guard.

For SnS I would try to go out of my way to ONLY use my shield.

I don’t even care if we win or I get kicked. I’d just wanna be petty lol.

[u/the_architects_427 → u/Nearby-Contact1304]

Ha, I main these two as well. I love the idea of exclusively using shield for the whole fight.

[u/Cielos2001 → u/Nearby-Contact1304]

Lance user here.

Inhales

Block is Block. Take this counter!

[u/Lone-Frequency → u/HamFan03]

I use Offensive Guard greatsword, so the dude would be extra salty with me lol

[u/KinoHiroshino → u/HamFan03]

Charge blade mains who can regular block, perfect block, and guard point: this is my training arc.

[u/EmiliaFromLV → u/HamFan03]

That and keep hitting the air. Well, that's what GS mains.usually do anyway.

[u/SteveoberlordEU → u/HamFan03]

But did you PERFECT block? Lmao you go thou.

[u/TheLimonTree92]

The Council of Doots hereby revokes this man's dooting license and is banished.

[u/Coffee_Stash → u/TheLimonTree92]

Seconded

[u/Eldar_Seer → u/Coffee_Stash]

Thirded

[u/khorne3 → u/Eldar_Seer]

fourthed

[u/MullyJP → u/khorne3]

One two three four Fif

[u/Silent-x99 → u/MullyJP]

Sixth

[u/Specialist_Secret907 → u/Silent-x99]

SEVEN

[u/TheNinjaMyth16 → u/Specialist_Secret907]

Eighted

[u/Routine_Toe_8414 → u/TheNinjaMyth16]

9th degree ban on dooting.

[u/the_lad_was_taken → u/Routine_Toe_8414]

10th vote to ban that asshole from dooting

[u/Rayze_Darr → u/TheNinjaMyth16]

Neinth

Clarification edit: The intent here is a cross-language pun, throwing an extra "no" at the false düter in the OP. It is in no way a disagreement with the 8 düters prior,.nor a signal for real-world organizations or regimes.

[u/justawarlock → u/Rayze_Darr]

10th, no dooter should have such ill will in their notes and malice in their melodies

[u/Dos_Ex_Machina → u/TheNinjaMyth16]

A full octave!

[u/Farkerisme → u/MullyJP]

[u/AdElectrical3997 → u/MullyJP]

I plead the fifth I plead the fifth one two three four fiiiiittthhhhh

[u/touchingthebutt → u/Eldar_Seer]

There aren't 3 other HH mains get out of here. 

[u/FullyBkdWaffles → u/touchingthebutt]

All 19 of us has spoken, the 20th who was a fledgling member is here by banished

[u/TheGrimmeReaper → u/FullyBkdWaffles]

He was the 21st. I am the 20th and also agree that this was a false dooter.

[u/Midnite3000 → u/TheGrimmeReaper]

I take his place as 21st.

[u/Lycos_hayes → u/Midnite3000]

As an occasional hobbyist dooter, I also decree him unworthy of the doots.

[u/Lord_Akriloth → u/Lycos_hayes]

As one learning the doot I shall not complain of this

[u/franchis3 → u/TheLimonTree92]

Seriously, as a HH main since World, I had to laugh out loud. He wants balls to the wall DPS and he’s running horn. Now, horn is no slouch in the damage department (and we make others stronger), but get serious! 😂 Just play and have fun, my dude. Whether a hunt is 6 minutes or 10, just have fun and reap the rewards.

[u/xW0LFFEx → u/franchis3]

Welllll, to be fair, like you said-horn is actually insanely good at dps even on its own, like I think people see it give buffs and immediately think pure support forgetting that it’s also a weapon meant to be able to handle monsters. It’s like how everyone sees clerics and thinks “oh good a healer!” Like no boo, im an offensive cleric because the best healing is killing the enemy, the best support in monster hunter is a dead monster and the other buffs from your silly little flute songs are just a bonus. I fear and respect true HH mains when they have every aspect of the thing memorized in their dna sequencing

[u/franchis3 → u/xW0LFFEx]

You’re not wrong. My favorite thing is how we pretty much cause damage in almost a 360° range. Direction we’re facing is almost meaningless.

[u/Redsparrow86 → u/TheLimonTree92]

Duly dooted.

[u/ValenSoul_sp → u/TheLimonTree92]

Motion approved

[u/keriekat → u/ValenSoul_sp]

The Doots have spoken.

[u/Rioluxx → u/TheLimonTree92]

Never expected to see all the Hunting Horn mains in one place in my lifetime.

[u/RobinGoodfell → u/Rioluxx]

It's a veritable orchestra around here!

[u/burner69burner69 → u/RobinGoodfell]

hooray!

cacophonously overlapping songs

[u/WeebDickerson → u/TheLimonTree92]

I will stick a doot up his arse and do that one spinny move from World

[u/zzoom_zoom → u/WeebDickerson]

I miss that spinny move. It had such a fancy flair to it.

[u/WeebDickerson → u/zzoom_zoom]

It was really addictive and a great way to end a combo

[u/M_Oudekerk]

if they're busy whining they ain't doing numbers now are they?

[u/StormTAG → u/M_Oudekerk]

This. My response would be "Get off chat"

[u/ZeBugHugs → u/StormTAG]

Chat is his Main

[u/SmileEverySecond → u/ZeBugHugs]

I wanna see a Yap speed run TA rule

[u/M_Oudekerk → u/SmileEverySecond]

1min 45 seconds 57 MS to get a Longsword user to leave the game

they are used to the abuse

[u/SaelemBlack]

As a lance main, my attacks literally get more powerful when I block. Dude sounds like a jackass. I would 100% resort to trolling until he booted me.

[u/alasermule → u/SaelemBlack]

I would pay no attention to the monster and just stand there holding block in the guy's face

[u/Barangat → u/SaelemBlack]

More importantly, that guard sound effect makes me very happy, I just enjoy guarding

[u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 → u/Barangat]

guarding causes the happy confetti to fly from your weapon and lets you crack open monster like pinata

[u/Infamous_Q → u/SaelemBlack]

OFFENSIVE GUARD HAS BEEN ACTIVATED all day erry day gimme them Lance shield slaps

[u/Professional-Help931 → u/SaelemBlack]

Long time ago when I was playing 3U so like 11 years ago now I had this lance guy come in to my lobby and start spaming that he had the blocks and other funny shit. I was running SnS at the time and he said something along the lines of you think you can block nuh uh I can block what you got and I got the blocks. It was the funniest interaction I had in 3U and I still shout that I got the blocks when fighting shit with lance.

[u/Alaerei → u/SaelemBlack]

Hell, guarding (especially perfect guarding) is a damage gain on pretty much all weapons that can do it in Wilds. On GL it lets you skip to downsmash, SnS has a counter attack that lets them do charged chop after, CB needs guard to activate Savage Axe Slash and can do AED/SAED out of it. It's even a viable defensive option on GS in Wilds, which is....wild.

[u/AZzalor → u/SaelemBlack]

Not only for Lance...every weapon that can block can benefit from OG and many weapons do get more out of it. Lance with the counters is obvious, but CB for example can counter with AED/SAED and gunlance gets to do a guard reload or follow up with the slam. It literally makes them do more DPS by guarding.

[u/Dragon-Install-MK4]

That’s crazy considering lance and gun lance have the most up time on a monster because you don’t have to give a shit about what it’s doing for the most part

[u/BingusMcCready → u/Dragon-Install-MK4]

GL is also much more of a burst DPS weapon than a sustained DPS weapon, at least in the current state of Wilds. Sure you can poke-shell for steady consistent DPS but you’ll do more overall by going for full bursts, comboing them into WF, and taking your damage in big chunks.

[u/slawter118 → u/BingusMcCready]

Gunlance meta is actually just charging shells into wf over and over again

[u/kingzoro112 → u/slawter118]

Gunlance has always been pretty dps heavy

[u/VacaDLuffy → u/kingzoro112]

rise gunlance can rocket you into a monster and shield bash ko them,shotgun slam your shells,wyvernstake then a big ass bom with wyvern fire and the silkbind into a super boom that resets the cooldown of wyvernfire. God i LoveRice Gunlance

[u/Chafgha → u/VacaDLuffy]

With wide you can stun with wyrmstake too

[u/KinoHiroshino → u/kingzoro112]

You can say that again!

[u/BingusMcCready → u/slawter118]

I don’t think that’s accurate? Everything I’ve seen speedrun and meta-wise is all about setting up for full bursts. Charged shells ARE good for getting WF back but just doing that repeatedly is not optimal, at least as I understand it.

[u/JediKL → u/BingusMcCready]

You would be correct, full burst into WF makes the WF come out much quicker. And to add onto the main post, perfect guard into WF does the same thing, so a good GL user will be perfect guarding as much as they can for quick WF and Full bursts

[u/HaroldSax → u/JediKL]

I'm at the point with both of them that if the monster doesn't attack me, I'm mad. Let me get my guards!

[u/SlimDirtyDizzy → u/slawter118]

No its not? Its Shell into wide sweep into Full Burst Combo 1 and 2, rinse and repeat until WF is up then use WF.

[u/Stunning_Ad_7062]

Offensive guard probs pisses this dude off so much lmao boy do I have an sns speedrun video to show him

[u/SpectreWolf666 → u/Stunning_Ad_7062]

That may or may not just send that dude into cardiac arrest

[u/barugosamaa → u/Stunning_Ad_7062]

A speedrun about offensive guard? please send me!!!

[u/Stunning_Ad_7062 → u/barugosamaa]

https://youtu.be/0tTzVjcpujU?si=mzmBe9t5iDtvIqsl Here u go :)

[u/Spacemomo → u/Stunning_Ad_7062]

Bro Offensive Guard is fucking awesome in Wilds.

Real Glad i started with Gunlance and HH.

[u/Burdman_R35pekt]

Normally HH mains are chads this man is a poser

[u/Fairyknight → u/Burdman_R35pekt]

Yah, I had a talk with the other three HH mains in the world and we don't recognize him as one of us.

[u/FullyBkdWaffles → u/Fairyknight]

He was a fledgling who wanted to be a chad, unfortunately he couldn’t read and was a chud

[u/tigress666 → u/Fairyknight]

Hey I’m trying to learn hh to add another to the world. I saw how helpful they are in world and rise and I wanna be one of those people you love to see enter your group.

[u/Proseph_CR → u/Fairyknight]

There are a lot of us. Much more than I realized.

[u/Kaebi_ → u/Fairyknight]

I wasn't invited! But I agree!

[u/Cleverbird → u/Fairyknight]

Hey now, the Hunting Horn is loved! It has more members! Like... at least 12!

[u/AZzalor → u/Burdman_R35pekt]

Was probably a corner horner and we all know that those are the losers of HH.

[u/EP1CxM1Nx99]

Doesn’t GL have one of the highest DPS’s in this game lmao?

[u/stopwhining27 → u/EP1CxM1Nx99]

Yes and it’s stupid fun, I could play the boom stick and shield all day

[u/AZzalor → u/EP1CxM1Nx99]

Yes. Even more funny considering that it gets more DPS when blocking as it can use guard-reload (quicker reload and you can do it during a monster attack) or follow the guard with a slam, which inceases the combo speed and damage.

[u/LordVulpix → u/EP1CxM1Nx99]

Yes and Hunting Horn is the WEAKEST dps in the game. While yes it does support and does help the overall hunt, the horn user should have been running some pure DPS himself.

[u/DegenerateCrocodile]

I would instantly switch to using Guard Slashes exclusively.

[u/LtHoneybun → u/DegenerateCrocodile]

I'd only do damage through guard points out of pure spite.

[u/johnny_whoa]

*Laughs in lance*

[u/DyscordianMalice → u/johnny_whoa]

(Laughs in gunlance)

BTW WHAT ARE WE LAUGHING ABOUT, I HAVE TINNITUS

[u/johnny_whoa → u/DyscordianMalice]

WHAT? SORRY I WENT DEAF AFTER TOO MANY MONSTERS ROARED IN MY FACE

[u/Keboros → u/johnny_whoa]

I THINK HE EITHER SAID "GET THE BIG GUN" OR " GET THE BIG FUN", IDK WHY HE SAID THE SAME THING TWICE????

[u/Faythlessly → u/Keboros]

HBG HERE WHO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BIG GUN. OR YOU HAVE THE RUNS? IDK IVE BEEN FIRING A MACHINE GUN FOR THE LAST 40 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY OR SO. HEARING AT 5%.

[u/DyscordianMalice → u/Faythlessly]

SORRY, I'M ALL OUT OF CHEWING GUM. I'M TRYING TO POP MY EARS SO I CAN HEAR YOU GUYS. BTW I BURNED OFF MY EYEBROWS DURING THE LAST WYRMFIRE BLAST COMBO.

[u/Hinderish → u/DyscordianMalice]

[u/TheRealDoomsong → u/Keboros]

WHAT!?!?!?

[u/SpookySocks4242]

Me on SnS

[u/Dralakbadusk]

bruh Dood should play solo if they get this piece about other players weapon preferences.

if i heard that i would just guard even more during the hunt lol

[u/TheTimorie]

Ah yes getting hit in the face instead of doing a perfect block and getting a boost from Offensive Guard is such a big DPS gain.

[u/ANKLEFUCKER → u/TheTimorie]

Bro isn’t even getting hit in the face. He’s 2 areas away spam typing in chat.

[u/Glumanda13]

Switched from SA to GL with wilds and i feel like doing way more dps, because i am always exactly at the monster and don't need to dodge any attack.

[u/radios_appear → u/Glumanda13]

See, that's interesting because I've been dabbling with GL and don't feel like I'm doing anything. There's something about the loop I know I'm not getting, where with World it felt like the full-burst -> reload sequence flowed right.

[u/carolvsmagnvs → u/radios_appear]

It took me a minute to click with new GL, but the burst combo works fine and so does the 'poke until you harpoon the thing' chain.

I like that you can use the shells to reposition with the little hop they added, too. All they need to do is bring back the human cannonball move from Rise to make it a perfect moveset for me

[u/SharkBaitDLS → u/radios_appear]

You’re basically trying to abuse your guard points and perfect blocks to combo into wyrmstake full blast or multi wyrmstake full blast depending on the opening. For short openings you can just full burst into quick reload. Because perfect block chains directly into slam, you can go into any one of those three off of it. And with the guard point on both quick reload and full reload, you can maintain pretty much constant pressure if you’re managing the timings right.

When the monster runs away, you can shell hop into sweep cancel to gap close super fast.

Also if you’re not already, change your focus mode to toggle and toggle it on the entire time you’re unsheathed. Your moves gap close more and will hit way more reliably with it. 

[u/Formula_Carrot]

I use a DPS meter for my own personal reference, but let me tell you that I am almost always at the top of the dps with Gunlance. It just wrecks in multiplayer because it doesn't care what part of the monster is facing you. And if the monster is focusing on me I just perfect guard through it.

[u/SharkBaitDLS → u/Formula_Carrot]

Yea that HH user is just totally wrong at a fundamental level on top of him being an asshole; you are correct that GL is one of the highest DPS weapons right now. 

[u/brellom]

Funnily enough, shields actually increase dps. Every second you're not spending eating the ground is an extra second you have to smack the monster.

[u/VermilionX88]

Those are the players you wanna avoid

I'd rather play with somebody who is failing by carting than deal with those pricks

[u/Rynex → u/VermilionX88]

Honestly I'm quite curious to play with someone who thinks like that. I want to investigate them and find out how their brain works.

[u/Dasquian → u/Rynex]

Sadly they are just critically uninteresting people addicted to min-maxing and unable to either enjoy or mentally cope with anything less than Optimal Play.

Ironically their extreme lack of creativity or adaptivity probably means what they have determined is Optimal Play... isn't.

[u/Scottles8605]

That's like telling a DB main to stop dodging. Bitch, I gotta! I can't do damage if I die.

[u/DovML]

We found the chat main

[u/SmellMahPitts]

He's projecting his inability to time perfect guards, that's why his DPS is shit with shielded weapons

[u/R0gueX3]

Wasn't gunlance top DPS for a while when this game was released? I know there's others now, but I imagine it's still top 5. But also, ffs, it's a monster hunter game. Why are we whining about peoples DPS meters here 😂

[u/melgib]

What an incredibly braindead take, especially if we're talking about GL and SnS.

[u/Future_Wing_3745]

Ah yes harassing fellow hunters instead of harassing the monster, amazing DPS tactics. This guy sounds like he couldn't get used to blocking and has resigned to being a lil wuss hiding with a HH, unlike most HH users who are knee deep in the carnage and bringing the doots.

[u/SpectreWolf666 → u/Future_Wing_3745]

I wasn't paying 100% attention but I don't really remember him actually being in the fight all that much. He'd get hit and would stay playing his music. I guess we were supposed to do the work for him

[u/Moore2257]

Idk what he's smoking. Gunlance and SnS have some crazy damage, plus the perfect block perks increase that even more

I run a full flayer SnS build. So many wounds, even on tempered monsters, and have the agitator and perfect block thing(forget what it's called) and I absolutely shred things.

[u/TippyTripod1040]

“Weapons with guards are no-skill by design”

I guess the absolute worst Sekiro fanboys have found monster hunter

Edit:oops

[u/terra_cotta → u/TippyTripod1040]

I'm so confused by this. In all fromsoft games not named sekiro or armored core, the answer to any defensive question is "i frame dodge," not blocking. 

Why would sekiro players, who are accustomed to blocking (you could split hairs and say it's about parrying...the difference is simply timing, its the same button) denigrate guarding?

[u/snickerblitz → u/terra_cotta]

I was about to say, out of all of the eldensoulsborniko (idk wtf we're calling it these days) games, Sekiro is the one where constant blocking/parrying is THE way to play lol

[u/sugar_pilot → u/terra_cotta]

Yeah, deflecting in Sekiro is just blocking with good timing. My friend and fellow sekiro enthusiast was immediately attracted to Lance because of the constant countering.

[u/Crimsonial]

The gunlancers would be upset if they had any hearing left.

[u/Sylithia]

This is why I play solo because I prefer to capture cause I loved seeing my captures in Astera and hope to again have this return one day. Plus, I like seeing my stats as capture instead of killing. If I like the monster, I capture. If I don't like it, kill it.

[u/TheSpyTurtle → u/Sylithia]

I like capture because my head canon is the guild relocates them somewhere away from civilians so they can live out their lives in peace, maybe a nature reserve or something. Unless the monsters being a little bitch, then I peel the fucker and make shoes

[u/muddytool45 → u/TheSpyTurtle]

I've found my people, my head Canon is that as monster hunters, we're supposed to capture mostly, otherwise we'd be called monster slayers. Relocation and research are our job, not killing.

[u/CharmingOracle]

Counterpoint: There’s nothing cooler than blocking a Ray Dau railgun with a charged Charge Blade shield and shrugging it off like it’s nothing.

[u/Clouds2589]

Wow that dude is an actual child.

[u/Skeletonparty101]

He was angry because he knew you were going to out DPS him with gunlance

[u/HappyHappyGamer]

I never thought MH games would have these kind of players lol

[u/3G0M4N]

Lol the SnS is one of the highest dps weapons in the game currently

[u/Scratch_That_]

Can't imagine a world where I open up my quest for anyone to join then try to tell them how to play

[u/ADragonuFear]

As if dodging or taking a hit and spending 5 seconds getting up doesn't lower a dps...

[u/Elmis66]

He spent most of the hunt texting lmao

you guys should have responded that yapping is a huge loss of dps

[u/Killdebrant]

Gunlance dps is insane these days.

[u/LupinLup1n]

Why do people care about dps as long as the. Hunt gets completed? If you care about dps get good and solo the monster for a world record like what 🤣

[u/neontoaster89]

This reminds me of Warframe… if anyone has the time to complain about another players deeps, they’re bad, mostly because if they were good, they should be soloing everything and not even notice.

[u/BoogalooBandit1]

I don't grt it Gunlance is stupid strong in Wilds

[u/Toxic_LigmaMale]

Imagine micro managing randoms in a game where hunts take 5:00.

[u/DrawerHelpful7647]

As a lance main if I see this man I'm purposely interrupting his songs I don't care if it's throwing the hunt this is just disrespectful so he gets nothing but disrespect

[u/Reddit_minion97]

Singular weapon = regular damage

Dual blades = double damage

Shield = no damage

Weapon and shield = only half damage

Duh

[u/SlightDentInTheBack]

damn thats actually crazy hh players are always chill. that guy needs to calm down lol

[u/churros101player]

Perfect guarding is pretty busted but what I find worse is that there's been so many people that actually get so frustrated at other weapon users in a damn Co op game. It's so funny

[u/SKREEOONK_XD]

That guy probably doesnt run horn maestro because it doesnt add damage 🤣

[u/Kalienor]

If a guy tells me that while I'm using SnS, I jump attack to mount the monster and stall as long as I can. There goes his dps.

Eh! No blocking...

[u/halfknots]

How can one be salty when using HH? It is inherently a joyous weapon. Poor soul...

[u/Charwizzard]

Offensive Guard Skill. Incredibly potent 15% attack up and easy to keep active with blocking which you want to do because...Perfect guarding benefits weapons like S&S due counters like counter slash being pretty strong. This HH player has no idea what they're talking about. I would have flat out ignored them.

[u/V4RG0N]

I will never get those people

[u/ChickenFajita007]

Mental illness.

[u/Furydragonstormer]

“Weapons with shields are no-skill by design!”

Laughs in Charge Blade

[u/KillerTackle]

Lemme guess, a corner horner wants to get carried by other three DPS weapon users, preferably DB or LS.

[u/MaxTheMasterbater]

Anyone that tells you you cant play X weapon is a dumbass.

[u/Special_Struggle561]

Imagine shooting a SOS then telling people how to play a game they paid their own money for?!?

[u/deweydean]

This mentality doesn't belong in Monster Hunter, but bleeds in from other games. This isn't Marvel Rivals yo! We should all be supportive of other hunters, not criticizing them for weapon choice! Stay in your lane bro, stop trying to create arbitrary rules.

[u/Whipped-Creamer]

blocking takes less time than dodging so that guy is incredibly bad at the game

[u/SilentKnyt]

HH imposter

[u/Conscious_Safety6526]

we dont claim him amongst our doot ranks

[u/smurfalidocious]

As a proud Charge Blade user he can take my block button from my cold, dead hands... from the cart he's laying in because he failed a dodge.

[u/djinbu]

He's an idiot who doesn't know how perfect guards and counters work. Just ignore him. He has a learning disability.

[u/lIAwfulWaffleIl]

I think he forgot that in order to do dps in the first place, you kind of have to not die to achieve that

[u/Justch1ll]

You know the biggest DPS loss? Chatting instead of hitting the monster

[u/breedab1e]

as a HH main we do not claim this negative soul

[u/WestDry3323]

So he was trying to max dps, but spent most of the hunt texting?? Hilarious.

[u/Gochira01]

Has this man not seen the gunlance in action? It is the boom factory, and all the monsters are stuck inside 9 to 5.

[u/LinkTheRipper]

What is this mmo raiding? Lol oh no you dropped dps for a second to stay alive the 15 minute fight became 16 minutes god forbid 🤣 what a goober

[u/minev1128]

People getting angry over anything now lol

[u/reala728]

Some people will just never cease to amaze.

"Game is too easy. Hunts end way too quickly!"

Also, in the same breath

"We MUST maximize DPS uptime, even if it means you're getting hit and/or carted"

[u/Adequate_Lizard → u/reala728]

What you did is called the Goomba Fallacy.

[u/Aokuma → u/reala728]

"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."

-Soren Johnson, designer on the Civ series

[u/Environmental_Two_14]

I mean there’s a whole counter and clash mechanic with shield that does damage and what about gems or skills that give you bonus attack damage for countering/guarding. Honestly that player kind of sounds like as they’re playing horn they want you to focus on damage as he can probably heal/buff you or whatever but still just play the game with the mechanics it gives you. There’s no point not using a piece of kit in your arsenal if it’s available and can do damage or counter something

[u/subhuman68]

Ignoring all the other obvious stuff like uptime on the monster guarding, it's hilarious how off this guy was.

You can reload perfect guard and skip the reload animation, which then leads into shortcuts into combos to do damage quicker or perfect guarding is also a shortcut to the quick version of wyvern fire. You can also proc offensive guard if you have it.

In fact, one of the most skilled things you can do on gunlance is try to time the auto reload on the multi wyrmstake full blast which will perfect guard with an attack. There is a decent window of time in which you can wait to go to the multi part of the combo that you can purposely delay in order to have the reload of the attack that it does for you perfect guard and let you do the tail end of the combo without getting hit.

[u/the_gaming_bur]

Guard 3, Guard up 3, Flinch Free 3, Stun 3, Defense Boost 7, Recovery speed 3, recovery up 3

Shield all day long, gfys

[u/Farkyrie001]

Those people have to be mentally challenged. Like I can't see myself ever being mad at someone of guarding. Bro is worried about DPS on a game with 0 competitive elements outside of speedruns. I just can't understand that mindset.

[u/Captain_Slib]

Time spent talking is time soent not hitting the monster. Shameful.

[u/snickerblitz]

Great logic on this idiot's part. Perfect guards have almost no recovery time, especially compared to a roll, throw on some offensive guard decos and it's also a dps boost and a substantial one at that, all while planting yourself directly on top of the monster and having maximum uptime on attacking. Screw this asshat, I've heard some elitist takes over the years, but this one is brand spanking new to me.

[u/DrZeroH → u/snickerblitz]

Yeah certain weapons explicitly output more damage by countering with perfect guard.

[u/ifan2218]

Dude is using SOS flares and has the balls to claim something is “no skill” lmao

[u/Silly_Stable_]

That’s pretty dumb since hunting horn has lower DPS than any other weapon.