r/politics • u/Mason_Miami • 13h ago
Conservative group claims Trump's tariffs illegally usurp powers of Congress
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-unlawful-impost-must-fall-conservative-group-sues-trump-claiming-tariffs-are-unconstitutional-exercise-of-legislative-power/2.4k
u/LuvKrahft America 13h ago
No shit. Yeah, guys, he’s a criminal. You had like two times to ban him from office but nooo. You empowered a spoiled brat sociopath.
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u/nowahhh Minnesota 8h ago
Don’t sell the country short. We empowered a lot of spoiled brat sociopaths.
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u/unicornsprinkl3 6h ago
This is the American way
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u/YourAdvertisingPal 6h ago
We really need to change the national motto to “I shit the bed, and I love rolling in it.”
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u/JediDusty 8h ago
They played politics like a sports game and we are all getting boned with the consequences.
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u/EnvironmentalHour613 3h ago
They know. They’re just mad it’s hurting them now.
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u/Various_Weather2013 American Expat 2h ago
They thought it was only going to hurt brown people lmfaoooo
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u/GaimeGuy Minnesota 13h ago edited 13h ago
I really don't see how any common sense interpretation of these tariffs can conclude they are in response to an emergency. The government has been quite clear that it is simply imposing them because it wants to, shifting from talks of cartels, to fentanyl, to "ripping us off blah blah blah" to "Nothing can be done to change my mind." on a day to day basis.
There's no policy objective, so what's the emergency? And emergency tariffs are the only ones that are supposed to be permitted, like when a nation tries to undercut a market on seasonal goods to critically wound its domestic supply - this is generally the purview of ministries in parliamentary bodies, so it makes sense to vest the authority in the executive branch to respond in kind, in those instances
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u/schwanzweissfoto 12h ago edited 12h ago
Ignoring laws and conjuring justifications from thin air is nazi shit. It was proven to work in Germany in the 1930s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_exception
A state of exception (German: Ausnahmezustand) is a concept introduced in the 1920s by the German philosopher, jurist and Nazi Party member Carl Schmitt, similar to a state of emergency (martial law) but based in the sovereign's ability to transcend the rule of law […] he defined political sovereignty as, essentially, the ability to ignore the law […]
Edit: How to deal with such a thing? “As always: Kill Hitler!” – Colonel Chestbridge (Danger 5)
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u/tehMarzipanEmperor 11h ago
There's a long history of political assassinations. Typically, when the assassin is successful, the outcome is very volatile, tending towards the opposite of what the assassin hoped to accomplish.
It's not done because it doesn't work.
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u/schwanzweissfoto 11h ago
It's not done because it doesn't work.
In any democracy, you can easily find a new / backup leadership. In a dictatorship with a cult of personality though …
A lot of people tried to kill Hitler. Even male models:
Encouraged by Claus Stauffenberg, Major Axel von dem Bussche agreed to carry out a suicide bombing in order to kill Hitler. Bussche, who was over two meters tall, blonde and blue-eyed, exemplified the Nazi "Nordic ideal" and was thus chosen to personally model the Army's new winter uniform in front of Hitler. In his backpack, Bussche concealed a landmine, which he planned to detonate while embracing Hitler. However, the viewing was canceled after the rail car containing the new uniforms was destroyed in an Allied air raid on Berlin.
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Ewald von Kleist attempted a scheme similar to Von dem Bussche's. However, the uniform inspection was once again postponed, and eventually cancelled by Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler
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u/tehMarzipanEmperor 11h ago edited 10h ago
Right...there were 40-some-odd plots against Hitler, around 20 serious...and they all failed.
But more to the point, the July 20 Plot did two things: (1) it gave Hitler the opportunity to settle old scores, deepening his control over Germany and (2) it gave him the delusion that he was saved by God and reinforced his determination to see the war through to the bitter end.
This is the direct opposite of what Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators wanted to achieve.
Edit - You should read "Killer Hitler" by Roger Moorhouse.
Edit - Look at the Trump assassination attempt. This did the opposite of what the shooter had hoped.
Consider the assassination of Julius Ceasar by the Senate...again, it did the opposite of what they had hoped.
What about the Archduke Ferdinand? What did Gavrilo Princip want? Serbian Independence. How did that go?
Again, the reason that political assassination isn't used is because it does not work.
Edit - Lord Mountbatten's assassination by the IRA didn't go so well for Irish Independence, if I recall correctly.
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u/DuckDatum 9h ago
All I know is Fry drank a bottle of water and it wasn’t even like 2 days before he had conscripts poking straws at his neck.
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u/Legio-X Oklahoma 8h ago edited 8h ago
What about the Archduke Ferdinand? What did Gavrilo Princip want? Serbian Independence. How did that go?
Idk, this is one of those cases the assassin actually achieved short-term and long-term success. Princip and his co-conspirators wanted to kill Ferdinand so he couldn’t alleviate ethnic tensions in the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Bosnian Serbs would be easier to incite to revolt. Ultimately, he caused the total disintegration of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the annexation of Bosnia into the Serbian-led Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
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u/ReasonableWerewolf10 Indiana 11h ago
this is true. unfortunately in most cases, taking out a political figurehead only means they're replaced with one of their friends — who is even worse amidst all of the ensuing chaos. in this case too, supposing we "kill hitler", he would just be replaced by a hitler clone.
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u/schwanzweissfoto 11h ago
“Given a time machine, would you kill Hitler?” – “No, who knows what could happen, it could get worse!”
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u/Commercial_Stop_3003 8h ago
I mean, we all know what's going to happen. He tanks the economy, he refuses to admit it's his fault, and then suddenly they start blaming all of the election boogiemen for the economy crashing.
We're speedrunning Nazi Germany.
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u/JPesterfield 10h ago
What kind of emergency would have tariffs as an answer anyway?
I know there can be some really slow moving emergencies(climate change, an asteroid going to hit in x years, etc.), but were emergency powers really meant for those?
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u/CatWeekends Texas 10h ago
The law was meant to be a quick response to countries that are preparing to attack us.
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u/Tweedlol 8h ago
It’s really amusing in a not funny way how they blame the fentanyl on other countries, like hi, yes it’s coming from somewhere but … it really doesn’t work when you just point the finger everywhere but yourself.
You know what WOULD help fentanyl crisis? Rehabilitation programs instead of criminal records. But that would support those minorities who are far more likely to be arrested for the crime. So nope. Let’s blame Canada!
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u/shangfrancisco 13h ago
Conservative group is not wrong
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u/kinkgirlwriter America 11h ago
Conservative group banned from r / conservative.
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u/RJ5R 11h ago
Lol yep. I got the boot from there by posting everything trump did that wasn't following conservative principles. You'd think they would want to know about it. They don't. They still think trump is for them, it's hilarious
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u/Clarknotclark 10h ago
This is because they don’t have principles. They have interests.
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u/your-mom-- 9h ago
Their interest is not admitting they're wrong. They know they are but at this point it's sunk cost.
At this point they're just going to blame Hunter Biden's dong, immigrants, and poor people
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u/Clarknotclark 9h ago
Online yes, but in the real world they have financial and power interests that they are promoting and forcing on the rest of us. It’s class warfare and right now they’re winning
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u/tnellysf 10h ago
If he is owning the libs, they do not care how he does it. Anything that upsets Dems is good.
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u/tinysydneh 4h ago
Most of them, their entire "interest" is "fuck them people over dere".
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u/malignantz 9h ago
I got banned for posting videotaped quotes of Donald Trump speaking about his daughter. They just don't want to hear the truth. Sad, because I was looking forward to engaging in their unflaired threads. However, they put a stop to that pretty quickly, so I guess it doesn't matter.
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u/Phillimon America 11h ago
Did they call you a brigadier or a RINO?
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u/whomad1215 9h ago
Help help we're being brigaded!
In the sub where you can only comment if you've been approved by the mods, and any dissenting opinions/facts gets you permanently banned
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u/thortmb 10h ago
O god, what's a RINO?
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u/PolygonIsGone 10h ago
Republican In Name Only
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u/thortmb 10h ago
Wow lol
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u/SillyGoatGruff 9h ago
For what it's worth, it's a pretty old term that predates trump. DINO is the democrat version
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u/whatproblems 9h ago
considering the party is taken over by maga, rinos should make thier own republican party
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u/cal_ness 9h ago
It’s hilarious lurking over there and every third comment is about getting downvoted / the conspiracy afoot with renegade downvoters from other subs. Not dissimilar from their leader; thin skinned attention seeking wastoid snowflakes.
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u/the-spaghetti-wives 7h ago
It's not a true conservative subreddit. It's r/The_Donald rebranded after their rightful ban.
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u/throwawtphone 7h ago
R / conservative is the old subreddit the _ donald.
Pretty sure that and r / conspiracy is where they migrated too after it was shut down.
Sucks too, ruined the fun of conspiracy went from hidden aliens bases and bigfeets and junk and stuff to q anon crapolla. Fun no more.
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u/icanswimforever 7h ago
To be fair, that subreddit is so tightly controlled that it's really just a propaganda place. Not sure it represents much of anything.
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u/FlyingStealthPotato 8h ago
It helps to realize that words don’t really have a standard meaning as much as they used to. “Conservative”, “liberal”, “left”, “right” all have completely different meanings to different people. I honestly think if you took those blanket words out of the equation, people would realize they agree with each other much more than they disagree. The rich always win the language war.
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u/Ja3k_Frost 8h ago
That whole sub is a total joke. You can probably boil 80-90% of all posts and comments into 3 categories.
“I’m going to take a principled stance and say this is bad, I wish trump would stay on message, we’re not like those liberals, we’re free to disagree here”
“Wow the brigades are out in force today, lotta libs in these comments, hi r-politics, you know trumps over the target when we’re being SUPPRESSED!!!”
“Hey look at this news article about a brown/trans person doing something bad”
That’s it, that’s all it is. Though not gonna lie, the “we’re not like liberals, we support free speech and diversity of thought” angle is really funny.
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u/BRNitalldown 7h ago
Unflaired users comments don’t even show up there. I’m pretty sure upvotes and downvotes don’t work either unless you’re flaired (and presumably not banned). But man, don’t they complain so often.
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u/Hurtzdonut13 7h ago
If you use a browser that ignores css then you can upvote/downvote.
There was a guy posting earlier on that sub that used to have a flair, but his last posts were removed and he was shadow banned because he disagreed about the tariffs being a 100% good thing and he was so confused because it was the liberals that ban dissent.
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u/BRNitalldown 6h ago
I’m not familiar with how it really works, but sometimes I link to weeks to months-old posts on that sub which causes the number of hidden comments to go up (of course, they don’t show). So I know there’s engagement, but the votes never change on the post nor in the comments, if that clears it up.
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u/shrug_addict 8h ago
Hello fellow conservative! It's obviously leftist brigading! We're all on board!
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u/Gambit1022 12h ago
Damn, not a sentence I ever thought I would find myself agreeing with.
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u/JahoclaveS 12h ago
Well, you could rewrite the sentence as “conservative group acknowledges reality for once.”
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u/Manos_Of_Fate 11h ago
Presumably because it started affecting them somehow.
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u/stanthebat 9h ago
They're worried that Trump destroying the world economy will cost them future elections.
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u/Peach_Mediocre 10h ago
“Conservative group acknowledges reality ONLY when the alternative takes away their money
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u/MandibleofThunder 10h ago
Dunno - the Lincoln Project has been speaking a lot of sense since 2019 far as I remember.
Don't know shit about their fiscal or social policies - but they're a Republican group that has been going HARD after Trump for 6+ years now.
I'm sure they're a bunch of Federalist society dickbags that still believe in aggressive 1800s agrarianism, but they make some funny-ass videos
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u/Tovius01 8h ago
Not as much as you'd hope. They did support DeSantis, after all.
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u/MandibleofThunder 8h ago
I immediately rescind whatever small praise I may have given them before.
I just threw up in my mouth.
Like a lot.
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u/SillyGoatGruff 9h ago
They hate trump, but are still GOP and want all the same regressive shit the rest of the party does. They just want someone more subtle and respectable to represent them
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u/MandibleofThunder 8h ago
I mean totally fair assessment.
And like I've been saying in a lot of my recent comments: "We all get it, you read Atlas Shrugged"
If I had to pick between the Great Orange Satan and your bog-standard Republican ...
Well, #47 is digging his own grave with the rest of casket and six feet of dirt on top of him and just keeping the shovelwork going hard.
So maybe a new age of prosperity after the Reds are voted out.
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u/Trapezoidoid 12h ago
What is that creature I see fluttering about in the sky, off in the distance? It’s pink and fat and has a big snout. I’ve never seen anything like it.
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u/Minikickass 11h ago
The problem is that congress keeps yielding their power to the executive...
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u/AdventurousSeaSlug 11h ago
But this is what they wanted. They now will have to accept the consequences and reality of what they voted, fought, and worked for. I feel only pity for the Americans who fought and voted for Kamala. FAFO.
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u/EggsceIlent 9h ago
That's a big part of these tariffs people dont get.
They are effectively bargain/bribe/threat tools that are under the control of the executive branch only which allows him to bypass Congress.
It would require a veto vote of Congress, would be all of the Dems and a large majority of the Republicans which isn't going to happen because they do as theyre told.
Even if it did pass without that veto majority, the POTUS said he'd veto it.
So if a vote does happen, watch who votes no. They're absolutely complicit in all of this.
And they only will vote no if they realize as midterms get closer that they will be voted out.
So do they do as trump says and go down with the ship? Or vote to say their own sorry asses that allowed this to happen.
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u/peterabbit456 8h ago
Tariff power of the executive is supposed to be an emergency power for fixing emergencies, not creating them.
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u/Hurtzdonut13 7h ago
Yeah, Trump made up an "emergency" and then just started doing things completely unrelated to the "emergency" he declared. It's blatantly invalid but the GOP is going to back him regardless.
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u/bihari_baller Oregon 10h ago
Conservative group is not wrong
New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA). Don't know why it was so hard to not put that in the headline.
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u/Jewronimoses 13h ago
Congress literally circumvented a rule that would normally force a vote on tariffs within a certain number of days by saying "calendar days don't exist in regard to trump tariffs"
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u/ComprehensiveCoat638 11h ago
Yep. They are pussies, allowing the destruction of the country all for personal ambition. Good luck with that ambition when the country falls apart. That's like allowing a fire to spread in a hotel that you allow because the arsonist is the regional manager and wants to burn down the hotel. You're allowing it cuz your trying to maintain your manager job. But without the hotel, what the fuck are you going to manage?
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u/SphericalCow531 5h ago
Wut... it seems you are right: https://rollcall.com/2025/03/18/house-majority-rules-when-a-calendar-day-isnt-what-it-seems/
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u/steve_ample I voted 13h ago
I fail to see how the many conservative groups who have traditionally been more ideological than not have kept silent for so long are only beginning to pipe up now. As if the separation of powers is something to be defended. As if the rule of law matters. As if elections matter. As if due process is a thing. As if judicial independence is a thing. As if supreme court justices must be above reproach.
Johnny-come-latelies, if at all.
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u/RedPanda5150 11h ago
Well they weren't personally losing a lot of money in a crashing stock market before now. You can't expect them to care about hurting other people, be reasonable!
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u/SaintGloopyNoops 4h ago
Ding! Ding! Ding! This is the only reason they give a shit now. They are only acting out of self-preservation.
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u/pigfoot 8h ago
If you look at their litigation history, they’ve consistently chosen cases that center around Executive overreach.
You may not like the particular remedies that they developed or from this perspective (I don’t), but it seems fairly consistent.
That’s the thing about balance of powers - it needs to be consistent regardless of the political flavor of the Executive. This case is representative of the kind of battles they pick, for better or worse.
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u/TheMadBug 8h ago
Genuine question - did this same conservative group have litigation when Trump used his executive overreach to -
Kidnap people to prison without judicial oversight?
Fire investigator generals without cause?
Chaotically slash funding / employment allocated by congress?
Give excessive amounts of top secret information to a private citizen?
Completely replace boards of what were meant to be independent organisations?
Violate the hatch act by having a car commercial on the White House lawn?
Or do they only litigate when the stock market is in danger? And presumably when interest payments on student loans are forgiven?
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u/pigfoot 8h ago
No. But I said that they were consistent not exhaustive. You can read a list of the cases they brought to the Supreme Court on Wikipedia.
And yeah, I think they suck too.
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u/TheMadBug 7h ago
Ugh I just checked their Wikipedia. Should have known they were a Koch group.
I could argue pedantically with you if they’re consistent or not - but no point as we both agree they suck.
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u/Gadshill 13h ago
Sounds like an impeachable offense. You guys game for that?
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u/mmmsoap 12h ago
Except it’s not illegal. Congress removed their own power to approve/dissent on tariffs until like 2026 with the Continuing Resolution.
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u/PluginAlong 9h ago
Exactly, now they just need to take that power back. They're just worried that Elon will fun a primary candidate against them.
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u/auricularisposterior 6h ago
Maybe not tariffs. But DOGE under the executive branch is violating the constitution by subverting Congress' Article 1 power of appropriations. ICE under the executive branch is violating the 5th amendment by withholding due process. There are hundreds of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that Trump has either committed himself or has allowed his subordinates to commit, even just since January 20th.
The only thing they need is enough Representatives and Senators to have the resolve to impeach and remove. Full stop.
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u/TheMoorNextDoor 12h ago
People start losing money and boom everybody wants to step in to save the day.
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u/orcinyadders 13h ago
America hating slobs. He literally said he was going to do this. He and Musk said the country would be in pain. They said this.
What are these groups complaining about? This is what they all wanted.
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u/TechnologyRemote7331 12h ago
This is true. The real issue is that the Republicans in Congress are LETTING him usurp their authority. They’ve bent the knee and are co-conspirators in every respect. If they back off and try to reign Trump in, it could mean they’re potentially slated for a one-way ride to the International Criminal Court. But if the DON’T do anything, they run the risk of angering the American populace so much, they’re forced out of power. They’re fucked.
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u/Space_Sweetness 12h ago
Congress has the possibility to vote with the senate resolution to block the tariffs. Put your money where your mouth is
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u/PluginAlong 9h ago
Exactly, too bad Johnson is screwing everyone by not even letting it come to a vote.
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u/Stinkstinkerton 12h ago
A System where rock bottom conman shit bag fraud can show up and be allowed to do this must damage with such minimal push back is not a system I want to participate in .
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u/CasioDorrit 11h ago
Enjoy the midterms idiots
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u/SeekingImmortality 7h ago
We are not even -three months in-. The mid-terms are WAY too far away.
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u/Tigerballs07 3h ago
Yeah like by the time midterms come around the so many people are going to be destitute from this shit.
With the volume of Americans that are 1 paycheck from homelessness.... what do you think happens when -EVERYTHING- you buy gets a 20%+ price hike.
Thank fucking god I work for a company whose main income is a service that is essential and the average american would continue paying for even if they lost their home (cell phone service) because otherwise I'd be even more worried about my future than I already am.
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u/StrangerFew2424 13h ago
That's because they do. Too bad feckless Republicans will do nothing to stop him...
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u/NinjaLanternShark 12h ago
Here's a prediction for you: These "we found a Trump voter who said something bad about Trump" stories are going to continue for four full years, with no action taking place and nothing changing.
And they'll vote Republican again.
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u/TesterTheDog Foreign 9h ago
No shit.
Just wait till you find out about enriching yourself by the office of the president!
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u/mhsuffhrdd 8h ago
Dementia Don and Elon have been blatantly, unconstitutionally, illegally, unethically, fraudulently, and/or immorally usurping powers almost every day for 11 weeks. But just now they start suspecting something evil?
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u/DoomdUser 11h ago
Yeah fuck you guys, “conservative group”. You voted for a fasicst prick who told you he was going to be a fascist prick, and you elected people to congress who enabled the fascist prick and literally changed the definition of a “calendar day” to funnel more power to the fascist prick, and now you’re upset that the fasicst prick is acting like a fascist prick?
Once again, fuck you, “conservative group”. You’re too late.
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u/citizenjones 11h ago
I guess any fucking excuse for Congress to actually exert any of its powers over the Executive branch is better than not doing a fucking thing.
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u/ResignedFate 9h ago
You can send innocent people to nightmare prisons in another country without due process, but I'll be damned if you mess with my wealth.
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u/Apprehensive_Bid_773 8h ago
Ah, NOW they care about his extreme overreach. As soon as their pockets are hurt
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u/please_PM_ur_bewbs New York 12h ago
The money wing of the party is all like "wait, we just wanted you to cut our taxes and regulations so we could hoard more money, not increase our costs and reduce our exports!"
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u/motionbutton 11h ago
Fighting this through the courts is going to be tough. Like watching a burning town waiting to see if you can build anything back from the remaining lumber
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u/Howitdobiglyboo 9h ago
I get infinite schadenfreude from watching otherwise "principled" conservatives twist themselves into a knot trying to explain Trump's actions using a framework they can understand -- while Trump does whatever he wants on his own logic.
Pro-Ukraine MAGA: "Trust me guys, Trump has a plan, he's gonna come down hard on Putin any moment now"
Anti-war MAGA: "Doesn't really want to annex Greenland and Canada. We won't actually start a war with Mexico and Iran.
Pro-business MAGA: "There's no way he'll actually do blanket tariffs, it's a negotiation tactic."
Followed by: "I'm sure he won't actually keep the tariffs up, he's just spooking all our trade partners into obeying his whims.
Free speech MAGA: "They're undocumented and/or not full citizens so they don't have full free speech nor due process.
It's horrifyingly sad, but I'd prefer to laugh at the cognitive dissonance tear their minds apart.
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u/JoostvanderLeij 4h ago
Haha, first make sure Trump has immunity from the law. Then complain that Trump breaks the law. Classic.
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u/samuel-dunstan America 12h ago
oh, a conservative said it?
wow, it really must be true then. maybe they won't vote for him in 2028.
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u/bobbymcpresscot 8h ago
Congress gave the power to the president, with the condition that congress can take them away.
Just because you really like the OG constitution, doesn't mean legislation hasn't been passed in the last 250 or so years.
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u/STN_LP91746 8h ago
Congress gave this power away. They can take it back, so why don’t they? Bunch of cowards.
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u/Rc72 5h ago
This is what gets me most. Remember the Boston Tea Party? "No taxation without representation"? It was triggered by an act of Parliament to levy tariffs on imports of tea from China into the thirteen colonies, to pay for their own defense and administration. That's right folks, the whole American Revolution was started over tariffs, and the Americans of the time weren't so stupid to believe, like Trump, that those tariffs were taxes on China. They knew perfectly they were taxes on themselves, and thus wanted to have a say on the matter. Which is why the Founding Fathers, when drafting the Constitution, placed the power to levy taxes, tariffs very definitely included, firmly into the hands of Congress, not the President.
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u/frogandbanjo 4h ago
Which is why the Founding Fathers, when drafting the Constitution, placed the power to levy taxes, tariffs very definitely included, firmly into the hands of Congress, not the President.
Well, okay, they did do that, but your comment does not actually lay out an argument for why they did that.
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u/Legal-Maintenance282 11h ago
When pigs fly it happen he said the country’s will negotiate with him California will negotiate there owns
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u/LuciusLaughalot 11h ago
Once this POS is out of the White House, there needs to be a serious reevaluation of the extent of power a president can have, or do we just allow anyone burn the country to the fucking ground and watch our burn for four years.
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u/Minty-licious 9h ago
But you are perfectly ok with him misusing his powers to deport people without due process or shutting down departments of imme se importance to Americans.
So I say, a day late and dollar short
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u/Lefty_22 North Carolina 8h ago
And the funding freezes. And the deportations to Venezuela. And threatening to withhold federal aid.
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u/Chance_Airline_4861 5h ago
Oh no Trump did something illegal again, wonder if he will face any consequences.
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u/3RR0RFi3ND 3h ago
Oh now they’re concerned about this illegal power grab.
These assholes wanted him to be free from the law, they got what they supported.
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u/Acceptable-Range-388 2h ago
We Republicans may really need to consider sending a clear message . lose our vote if this nonsense doesn’t stop. We voted for lower prices, lower interest rates, and for our savings to grow. Instead, our savings are being wiped out, and we’re facing the worst inflation in years
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u/Legal-Maintenance282 11h ago
Ok so we do nothing a republicans will never again have a chance to destroy us all again cause all of us will suffer for this
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u/MagicQuif 10h ago
General Secretary Trump Tse Don gonna send us out to build back yard furnaces pretty soon
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u/TexanFromOhio 9h ago
Right here in black & white: Section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
Yes, that is the text of the US Constitution...the passage does not say the President!
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u/ambientocclusion 9h ago
Why aren’t the democrats fighting on this issue too? Or are they and I just missed it?
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u/Legio-X Oklahoma 8h ago edited 6h ago
Why aren’t the democrats fighting on this issue too? Or are they and I just missed it?
I’ve definitely seen some Democrats call this out for what it is (a tax hike on the average American), and it was mostly Democrats who backed Rand Paul’s resolution to revoke Trump’s tariffs on Canada.
But if it feels like Democrats aren’t hammering tariffs hard enough, it may be because, historically, they had a very strong pro-tariff protectionist wing. I mean, just look at some of the unions endorsing this.
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u/Gratrunkasaur 8h ago
Absolutely insane it's taken this long for anyone in Congress to remember they have the power of the purse. They've consistently ceded power to the executive for over two decades so they don't have to fucking do anything besides fund raise.
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u/Horror_Plum_9014 7h ago
Congress is fine with giving up power, when’s the last time they voted for, or against war?
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u/Think_Struggle_6518 6h ago
Impeach him. he is clearly overextending the powers of the executive.
If republican congress people truly love their country they need to snap out of it quick or this shit is over.
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u/Razashja 1h ago
And? What are you gonna do about it?
Vote republican next time with a slightly darker facial expression? yeah...
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u/milelongpipe 1h ago
So we have a conservative group saying this, we have Dems saying this, only MAGA is quiet…
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u/Miklay83 1h ago
Can someone please give me an ELI5 on who is actually enacting, implementing and enforcing this nonsense? So much of this seems like Michael Scott screaming "I declare bankruptcy" - but who is actually tica-tacka-ing behind some government keyboard to make this shit happen in the real world?
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u/mestar12345 11h ago
He lied about an emergency. Why is this not mentioned more often.
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u/sleepyworm 10h ago
Huh, I wonder why they’re only piping up about him usurping authority now instead of when it started on day 1
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u/Thetman38 9h ago
That's where they draw the line in Trump violating his oath of office? When they realize they'll be affected
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